[wp-pro] wp-pro Digest, Vol 60, Issue 14
Cathy-- Desperately Seeking WordPress
cathy at desperatelyseekingwp.com
Wed Jun 16 06:52:37 UTC 2010
I agree that an approach needs to be taken, but I am unversed in which
approach would be best given the circumstances of this forum/medium.
I have a similar question - I have been working with WP and making a living
for it. Does that mean I'm a pro? A number of people make a living off of
hosting, for example, and I would NOT consider them 'real' hosts. But how
does one tell the difference, if not for personal vetting of the vendor?
Cathy Tibbles
Desperately Seeking WP <http://desperatelyseekingwp.com>
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> 1. Re: wp-pro Digest, Vol 60, Issue 12 (Miriam Schwab)
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> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:05:44 +0300
> From: Miriam Schwab <mschwab at illuminea.com>
> Subject: Re: [wp-pro] wp-pro Digest, Vol 60, Issue 12
> To: Dan Foley <dan at micamedia.com>
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> How are we going to decide who's a pro? What level of knowledge makes one a
> pro? For example, although I've been working with WordPress for over three
> years, I'm always learning new things and there are definitely people out
> there who know more than me.
>
> What I'm saying is there are always going to be different levels of
> providers and I think that they all have the right to their place in the
> marketplace.
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> Miriam
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> Miriam Schwab
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> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Dan Foley <dan at micamedia.com> wrote:
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> > Agreed. Only Pros should be on this list.
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> >> 1. Re: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU)
> >> HITESH(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com) (Gustavo Silva Bordoni)
> >> 2. Re: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU)
> >> HITESH(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com) (Ashish [Outshine Solutions])
> >> 3. Re: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
> >> (kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com) (Daniel Cameron)
> >> 4. Re: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
> >> (kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com) (Daniel Cameron)
> >> 5. Fwd: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
> >> (kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com) (MLR)
> >> 6. Re: Fwd: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
> >> (kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com) (mailapera)
> >>
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:48:18 -0300
> >> From: Gustavo Silva Bordoni<webord.net at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU)
> >> HITESH(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
> >> To: OTCListings<info at otclistings.com>, wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
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> >> Agreed.
> >> --
> >> Gustavo Silva Bordoni - http://webord.net/
> >>
> >> gustavo at webord.net
> >> webord.net at gmail.com
> >>
> >> +55 (21) 9416-4506
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 08:55, OTCListings<info at otclistings.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Interesting, you have my vote for Black List... should you remove
> people
> >>> from this list if they are NOT WP PRO people. Definately something to
> >>> take
> >>> up with the list manager. I would say take a stiff approach and cut
> >>> people
> >>> out if they are not pro's or professional.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> *From:* Bob Matsuoka<bob at mokamedianyc.com>
> >>> *To:* wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:00 PM
> >>> *Subject:* [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH(
> >>> kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
> >>>
> >>> Just a heads up that I entered in an agreement with Hitesh last year to
> >>> develop a custom WP plugin for me (found him on this list). After
> >>> agreeing
> >>> on the scope of work and price, I gave him a down payment to begin
> work.
> >>> After several weeks of stalling, he admitted that he was unable to
> >>> complete
> >>> the task, and in fact never delivered a single line of code. He has
> >>> admitted fault and indicated he would refund my deposit, but has not
> done
> >>> so
> >>> after over a year.
> >>>
> >>> I am happy to provide an email trail if you're interested in the
> details
> >>> for proof. Hitesh is long on reassurances and talk, very short on
> >>> delivery.
> >>> I would stay far away.
> >>>
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> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:22:27 +0530
> >> From: "Ashish [Outshine Solutions]"<ashish at outshinesolutions.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU)
> >> HITESH(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
> >> To: Gustavo Silva Bordoni<webord.net at gmail.com>
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> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:49:55 -0700
> >> From: Daniel Cameron<dan at sproutventure.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
> >> (kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
> >> To: Bob Matsuoka<bob at mokamedianyc.com>
> >> Cc: wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
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> >> Very similar results. I set him up with a small project to see if I
> could
> >> outsource some of my small projects. Total FAIL!! Just copied an
> existing
> >> plugin and didn't do anything.
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> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:56:39 -0700
> >> From: Daniel Cameron<dan at sproutventure.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
> >> (kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
> >> To: Sam Hotchkiss<sam at hotchkissconsulting.net>
> >> Cc: Bob Matsuoka<bob at mokamedianyc.com>, wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
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> >> I had the same idea when a thread about clients came up on this list
> last
> >> year. Never transpired because people talked about risk
> >> of unwarranted feedback ( on both ends ).
> >>
> >> PS: I think this should be taken off list, maybe someone with a blog can
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> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:54:45 -0400
> >> From: MLR<mlrichard at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [wp-pro] Fwd: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
> >> (kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
> >> To: wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
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> >> From: MLR<mlrichard at gmail.com>
> >> Date: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:53 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH (
> >> kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
> >> To: Daniel Cameron<dan at sproutventure.com>
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyone who builds such a database should first and foremost consider
> >> making
> >> it a feedback system similar to systems found in eBay or Etsy so that
> good
> >> comments can be shared. I have had some major fails and some wonderful
> >> wins
> >> when it comes to clients found on this forum and all things considered I
> >> would myself rather hire someone with a majority of positive feedback
> >> about
> >> similar projects rather than the unknown newbie who simply has 0
> negative
> >> feedback yet. A black list system is just Yuk and negative and attracts
> >> unprofessional venting.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Daniel Cameron<dan at sproutventure.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> I had the same idea when a thread about clients came up on this list
> last
> >>> year. Never transpired because people talked about risk
> >>> of unwarranted feedback ( on both ends ).
> >>>
> >>> PS: I think this should be taken off list, maybe someone with a blog
> can
> >>> post about it :)
> >>>
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> >> Message: 6
> >> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:29:43 +0200
> >> From: mailapera<mailapera at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Fwd: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
> >> (kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
> >> To: wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
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> >> Yes I think transparency is key. I had a lot of bad experiences here,
> >> and a couple of good ones. I have no idea why there is so much worry
> >> about bad feedback. When you do a good job people say it outright. If
> >> you are interested on positive feedback only try Flattr then ;) A
> >> balanced way of sharing feedback is foremost important, especially
> >> when you work long distance like it often happens here. Plus people
> >> have better things to do than just vent for no reason here.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:54 PM, MLR<mlrichard at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>> From: MLR<mlrichard at gmail.com>
> >>> Date: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:53 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
> >>> (kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
> >>> To: Daniel Cameron<dan at sproutventure.com>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Anyone who builds such a database should first and foremost consider
> >>> making
> >>> it a feedback system similar to systems found in eBay or Etsy so that
> >>> good
> >>> comments can be shared. I have had some major fails and some wonderful
> >>> wins
> >>> when it comes to clients found on this forum and all things considered
> I
> >>> would myself rather hire someone with a majority of positive feedback
> >>> about
> >>> similar projects rather than the unknown newbie who simply has 0
> negative
> >>> feedback yet. A black list system is just Yuk and negative and attracts
> >>> unprofessional venting.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Daniel Cameron<dan at sproutventure.com
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I had the same idea when a thread about clients came up on this list
> >>>> last
> >>>> year. Never transpired because people talked about risk
> >>>> of?unwarranted?feedback ( on both ends ).
> >>>> PS: I think this should be taken off list, maybe someone with a blog
> can
> >>>> post about it :)
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Cathy Tibbles
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