[wp-polyglots] Dutch translation mergin of trunk translation with development
José Fontainhas
jfontainhas at gmail.com
Fri Jul 30 11:42:58 UTC 2010
Hi,
You can export .pos from dev and import those into 3.0.x (core,
multisite and twentyten)
Z
On 30 July 2010 12:16, Remkus de Vries | ForSite Media <info at forsite.nu> wrote:
> Hi, it's me again :)
>
> I have requested a chat with somebody in charge of the GlotPress
> translations a few weeks back but I have gotten no response yet... Right now
> the main issue is that we would like to merge the translation of the
> development trunk with 3.0.x branch. Most of the translations have been done
> in the development area and it just seems like a huge waste of time to have
> to that for the 3.0.x branch as well..
>
> If there is a way I can do this myself that would be great but I don't see
> it :(
>
> Thanks,
> Remkus
>
>
>
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> 1. Re: WordPress 3.0.1 expected around mid July (Peter Holme)
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> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:12:31 +0200
> From: Peter Holme <peter at holme.se>
> Subject: Re: [wp-polyglots] WordPress 3.0.1 expected around mid July
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> Sorry.. read through the revision statements - it seems we should use 15480.
> I'll go with that.
>
> Peter
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> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:09, Peter Holme <peter at holme.se> wrote:
>
>> So what revision are we supposed to use? 15477 or 15480? (I suspect I
>> might have used the wrong one for 3.0, 'cause the "upgrade available"
>> message has appeared sporadically since I upgraded)
>>
>> Peter (nb_NO)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 02:55, Milan Dini? <liste at srpski.biz> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> Please don't think of this e-mail as of some attempt to blame you,
>>>> I'm only agreeing on the point quoted. Sorry if you got me wrong!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just to clarify that I too wasn't meaning just on Andrew but to all
>>> developers.
>>>
>>> 2010/7/30 Wac?aw Jacek <mail at waclawjacek.com>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 08:02:06PM -0400, Andrew Nacin wrote:
>>>> > 2010/7/29 Wac?aw Jacek <mail at waclawjacek.com>
>>>> >
>>>> > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 02:36:18AM +0300, Rasheed Bydousi wrote:
>>>> > > > I think translators should know about new releases much earlier.
>>>> > > That's true, in order for us to translate stuff on time and take
>>>> proper
>>>> > > care of the regional communities by providing on-time
>>>> > > translations we
>>>> need
>>>> > > to know of expected upgrades earlier than they are released.
>>>> Obviously this
>>>> > > shouldn't apply if and update is a crucial bug fix. :)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Demetris emailed this list 19 days ago, and we haven't changed a
>>>> > string since. I also alerted the list to string changes as they
>>>> > occurred. Your translations should be complete; you only need to push
> a button now.
>>>>
>>>> Dear Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> Please don't think of this e-mail as of some attempt to blame you,
>>>> I'm only agreeing on the point quoted. Sorry if you got me wrong!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> WJ
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> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:18:23 +0200
> From: Peter Holme <peter at holme.se>
> Subject: Re: [wp-polyglots] WordPress 3.0.1 expected around mid July
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> nope. that didn't work...
>
> These are the settings I use:
> - Where to take translations from: translate.wordpress.org
> - Locale branch for dist-files: tags/3.0.1
> - Project: Development (trunk)
> - WordPress revision: HEAD (15480)
> - WordPress version: 3.0.1
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> When these settings are used, version.php says 3.1-alpha...
>
> Peter
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:12, Peter Holme <peter at holme.se> wrote:
>
>> Sorry.. read through the revision statements - it seems we should use
>> 15480. I'll go with that.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:09, Peter Holme <peter at holme.se> wrote:
>>
>>> So what revision are we supposed to use? 15477 or 15480? (I suspect I
>>> might have used the wrong one for 3.0, 'cause the "upgrade available"
>>> message has appeared sporadically since I upgraded)
>>>
>>> Peter (nb_NO)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 02:55, Milan Dini? <liste at srpski.biz> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Andrew,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please don't think of this e-mail as of some attempt to blame you,
>>>>> I'm only agreeing on the point quoted. Sorry if you got me wrong!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just to clarify that I too wasn't meaning just on Andrew but to all
>>>> developers.
>>>>
>>>> 2010/7/30 Wac?aw Jacek <mail at waclawjacek.com>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 08:02:06PM -0400, Andrew Nacin wrote:
>>>>> > 2010/7/29 Wac?aw Jacek <mail at waclawjacek.com>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 02:36:18AM +0300, Rasheed Bydousi wrote:
>>>>> > > > I think translators should know about new releases much earlier.
>>>>> > > That's true, in order for us to translate stuff on time and
>>>>> > > take
>>>>> proper
>>>>> > > care of the regional communities by providing on-time
>>>>> > > translations
>>>>> we need
>>>>> > > to know of expected upgrades earlier than they are released.
>>>>> Obviously this
>>>>> > > shouldn't apply if and update is a crucial bug fix. :)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Demetris emailed this list 19 days ago, and we haven't changed a
>>>>> string
>>>>> > since. I also alerted the list to string changes as they occurred.
>>>>> Your
>>>>> > translations should be complete; you only need to push a button now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Andrew,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please don't think of this e-mail as of some attempt to blame you,
>>>>> I'm only agreeing on the point quoted. Sorry if you got me wrong!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>> WJ
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:27:02 +0200
> From: Xavier Borderie <xavier at borderie.net>
> Subject: Re: [wp-polyglots] WordPress 3.0.1 expected around mid July
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> Don't use trunk, use the 3.0.1 tag, or at least the 3.0 branch.
>
> -x.
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> On 30 July 2010 07:18, Peter Holme <peter at holme.se> wrote:
>> nope. that didn't work...
>> These are the settings I use:
>> - Where to take translations from: translate.wordpress.org
>> - Locale branch for dist-files: tags/3.0.1
>> - Project: Development (trunk)
>> - WordPress revision: HEAD (15480)
>> - WordPress version: 3.0.1
>> When these settings are used,?version.php says 3.1-alpha...
>> Peter
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:12, Peter Holme <peter at holme.se> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry.. read through the revision statements - it seems we should use
>>> 15480. I'll go with that.
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:09, Peter Holme <peter at holme.se> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So what revision are we supposed to use? 15477 or 15480? (I suspect
>>>> I might have used the wrong one for 3.0, 'cause the "upgrade available"
>>>> message has appeared sporadically since I upgraded) Peter (nb_NO)
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 02:55, Milan Dini? <liste at srpski.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Andrew,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don't think of this e-mail as of some attempt to blame you,
>>>>>> I'm only agreeing on the point quoted. Sorry if you got me wrong!
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to clarify that I too wasn't meaning just on Andrew but to all
>>>>> developers.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/7/30 Wac?aw Jacek <mail at waclawjacek.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 08:02:06PM -0400, Andrew Nacin wrote:
>>>>>> > 2010/7/29 Wac?aw Jacek <mail at waclawjacek.com>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 02:36:18AM +0300, Rasheed Bydousi wrote:
>>>>>> > > > I think translators should know about new releases much earlier.
>>>>>> > > That's true, in order for us to translate stuff on time and
>>>>>> > > take proper care of the regional communities by providing
>>>>>> > > on-time translations we need to know of expected upgrades
>>>>>> > > earlier than they are released.
>>>>>> > > Obviously this
>>>>>> > > shouldn't apply if and update is a crucial bug fix. :)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Demetris emailed this list 19 days ago, and we haven't changed a
>>>>>> > string since. I also alerted the list to string changes as they
>>>>>> > occurred.
>>>>>> > Your
>>>>>> > translations should be complete; you only need to push a button now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Andrew,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don't think of this e-mail as of some attempt to blame you,
>>>>>> I'm only agreeing on the point quoted. Sorry if you got me wrong!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>> WJ
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:46:28 +0200
> From: Mattias Tengblad <mst at eyesx.com>
> Subject: Re: [wp-polyglots] WordPress 3.0.1 expected around mid July
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> Well written Milan, I totally agree with you. This has been discussed a
> couple of times over the years but nothing has really changed.
>
> *Mvh*
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> Milan Dini? skrev 2010-07-30 02:26:
>>
>> You should subscribe to the RSS feed at
>> http://wordpress.org/news/category/releases/.
>>
>>
>> You are changing mind :)
>> http://lists.automattic.com/pipermail/wp-polyglots/2010-June/004672.html :
>>
>> I don't see a reason to develop a notification service other
>> than us manually sending an email as we are prepping everything for
> release.
>>
>>
>> Problem with relying on RSS from wp.org/news <http://wp.org/news> is
>> that it is very slow process. We need faster notification via email.
>>
>> Demetris emailed this list 19 days ago, and we haven't changed a
>> string since. I also alerted the list to string changes as they
>> occurred. Your translations should be complete; you only need to
>> push a button now.
>>
>> You first need to know how this process works:
>> - we need to check if there is any new string since last update and if
>> files for direct translation were changed
>> - we commit translations to SVN and need to wait around 10 minutes
>> before we can build a locale package at locale site
>> - we need to wait xx minutes before locale version will appear on
>> upgrade screen even if it was hours before last check to api was made
>> (I just tested this again today: I didn't have notification about
>> update until I went to upgrade screen where I only got option to
>> update to en_US even though locale package was already available on
>> locale.wp.org <http://locale.wp.org>)
>> - if we updated to en_US while there wasn't locale package, we will
>> again receive notification about new version, this time with option to
>> upgrade to locale package
>>
>> So even if we have ready translations and see news about release the
>> same moment as it is posted, we still need xx minutes before new
>> locale version will appear at upgrade screen. And what if we don't
>> release a locale package for several hours or day(s) because we were
>> offline, unaware that new version will be released? Users will update
>> to en_US, some strings will be untranslated (depending if it is
>> version from new branch and how many changes there are in new
>> version), and when new locale version is release they'll again get
>> notification about update and they'll ask "WTF!? I already updated to
>> this version!"
>>
>> We need a different process related to releases. Translators should be
>> warned when new version will be released, not just because they need
>> to update translations, but because they need to be ready to "push a
>> button" (if it was that simple). I could understand if there was need
>> for unplanned release because of discovery of huge security issue that
>> needs to be fixed as soon as possible, but those releases are not that
>> often and you don't have a reason to not inform us in advance.
>>
>> You must be aware that this process is not friendly for translators
>> and for users of locale versions. You must be aware that there are
>> users who use locale version (check for stats for exact percent) and
>> you can't ignore that fact in release process. If you really want to
>> fully support i18n and l10n in automatic upgrades and notification
>> about upgrades, you must stop with current practice and make strict
>> rules with translators about release process which should be followed
>> by everyone.
>>
>> 2010/7/30 Andrew Nacin <wp at andrewnacin.com
>> <mailto:wp at andrewnacin.com>>
>>
>> 3.0.1 has been released.
>>
>> I had an email drafted to polyglots, but we made a last minute
>> change and I got sidetracked.
>>
>> It hasn't been several hours; WordPress 3.0.1 proper was released
>> 72 minutes ago, but I digress. You should subscribe to the RSS
>> feed at http://wordpress.org/news/category/releases/.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Nacin
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Milan Dini? <liste at srpski.biz
>> <mailto:liste at srpski.biz>> wrote:
>>
>> Again no notification in advance (I mean at least several
>> hours) and no notification after release is made (so we still
>> need to use external notification services).
>>
>> I would expect that Nacin would inform us, he was active on
>> this list last months.
>>
>> 2010/7/10 Demetris <kikizas at gmail.com
>> <mailto:kikizas at gmail.com>>
>>
>> Hello, polyglots!
>>
>> This is a note that WordPress 3.0.1 is expected to be
>> released around mid July.
>>
>> Like all maintenance releases, it will be a very good
>> opportunity for
>> translation teams to push
>> improvements/additions/corrections/etc. in
>> their localizations.
>>
>> (I know that I try to take advantage of maintenance
>> releases for that
>> purpose?fixing strings, localizing more strings, etc.?,
>> and I imagine
>> other WordPress translators do the same thing.)
>>
>> Note also that 3.0.1 has a few changes in strings (mainly
>> to correct
>> typos, if I remember correctly). So, remember to update
>> your PO files
>> too!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Demetris
>> http://op111.net/76 ? See what is new in WordPress 3.0!
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