[wp-polyglots] Dutch translation mergin of trunk translation with development
Milan Dinić
liste at srpski.biz
Fri Jul 30 11:56:46 UTC 2010
Import will overwrite any existing translation (no matter is it tunk, 3.0.x
etc).
2010/7/30 Remkus de Vries | ForSite Media <info at forsite.nu>
>
>
> Thanks for your answers Milan and José! How could I’ve missed that? :0
>
>
>
> One question though.. whenever I upload a new .pos file will this override
> all current translations for a given field? Or does everything get wiped
> clean? In some cases translation have been made for certain fields in the
> 3.0.x branch which have not been translated in the development trunk.
>
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> *Van:* Milan Dinić [mailto:liste at srpski.biz]
> *Verzonden:* vrijdag 30 juli 2010 13:43
> *Aan:* remkus at forsite.nu; wp-polyglots at lists.automattic.com
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [wp-polyglots] Dutch translation mergin of trunk
> translation with development
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> For now, you need to export translations from trunk and import them in
> 3.0.x. There is a ticket ( http://trac.glotpress.org/ticket/66 ) in
> GlotPress for enabling copying between two translations sets which would
> make this process easier.
>
> 2010/7/30 Remkus de Vries | ForSite Media <info at forsite.nu>
>
> Hi, it's me again :)
>
> I have requested a chat with somebody in charge of the GlotPress
> translations a few weeks back but I have gotten no response yet... Right
> now
> the main issue is that we would like to merge the translation of the
> development trunk with 3.0.x branch. Most of the translations have been
> done
> in the development area and it just seems like a huge waste of time to have
> to that for the 3.0.x branch as well..
>
> If there is a way I can do this myself that would be great but I don't see
> it :(
>
> Thanks,
> Remkus
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:12:31 +0200
> From: Peter Holme <peter at holme.se>
> Subject: Re: [wp-polyglots] WordPress 3.0.1 expected around mid July
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> Sorry.. read through the revision statements - it seems we should use
> 15480.
> I'll go with that.
>
> Peter
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:09, Peter Holme <peter at holme.se> wrote:
>
> > So what revision are we supposed to use? 15477 or 15480? (I suspect I
> > might have used the wrong one for 3.0, 'cause the "upgrade available"
> > message has appeared sporadically since I upgraded)
> >
> > Peter (nb_NO)
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 02:55, Milan Dini? <liste at srpski.biz> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Andrew,
> >>>
> >>> Please don't think of this e-mail as of some attempt to blame you,
> >>> I'm only agreeing on the point quoted. Sorry if you got me wrong!
> >>>
> >>
> >> Just to clarify that I too wasn't meaning just on Andrew but to all
> >> developers.
> >>
> >> 2010/7/30 Wac?aw Jacek <mail at waclawjacek.com>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 08:02:06PM -0400, Andrew Nacin wrote:
> >>> > 2010/7/29 Wac?aw Jacek <mail at waclawjacek.com>
> >>> >
> >>> > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 02:36:18AM +0300, Rasheed Bydousi wrote:
> >>> > > > I think translators should know about new releases much earlier.
> >>> > > That's true, in order for us to translate stuff on time and take
> >>> proper
> >>> > > care of the regional communities by providing on-time
> >>> > > translations we
> >>> need
> >>> > > to know of expected upgrades earlier than they are released.
> >>> Obviously this
> >>> > > shouldn't apply if and update is a crucial bug fix. :)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Demetris emailed this list 19 days ago, and we haven't changed a
> >>> > string since. I also alerted the list to string changes as they
> >>> > occurred. Your translations should be complete; you only need to push
> a button now.
> >>>
> >>> Dear Andrew,
> >>>
> >>> Please don't think of this e-mail as of some attempt to blame you,
> >>> I'm only agreeing on the point quoted. Sorry if you got me wrong!
> >>>
> >>> Cheers!
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> From: Peter Holme <peter at holme.se>
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> nope. that didn't work...
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> These are the settings I use:
> - Where to take translations from: translate.wordpress.org
> - Locale branch for dist-files: tags/3.0.1
> - Project: Development (trunk)
> - WordPress revision: HEAD (15480)
> - WordPress version: 3.0.1
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> When these settings are used, version.php says 3.1-alpha...
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> Peter
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> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:12, Peter Holme <peter at holme.se> wrote:
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> > Sorry.. read through the revision statements - it seems we should use
> > 15480. I'll go with that.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:09, Peter Holme <peter at holme.se> wrote:
> >
> >> So what revision are we supposed to use? 15477 or 15480? (I suspect I
> >> might have used the wrong one for 3.0, 'cause the "upgrade available"
> >> message has appeared sporadically since I upgraded)
> >>
> >> Peter (nb_NO)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 02:55, Milan Dini? <liste at srpski.biz> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear Andrew,
> >>>>
> >>>> Please don't think of this e-mail as of some attempt to blame you,
> >>>> I'm only agreeing on the point quoted. Sorry if you got me wrong!
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Just to clarify that I too wasn't meaning just on Andrew but to all
> >>> developers.
> >>>
> >>> 2010/7/30 Wac?aw Jacek <mail at waclawjacek.com>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 08:02:06PM -0400, Andrew Nacin wrote:
> >>>> > 2010/7/29 Wac?aw Jacek <mail at waclawjacek.com>
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 02:36:18AM +0300, Rasheed Bydousi wrote:
> >>>> > > > I think translators should know about new releases much earlier.
> >>>> > > That's true, in order for us to translate stuff on time and
> >>>> > > take
> >>>> proper
> >>>> > > care of the regional communities by providing on-time
> >>>> > > translations
> >>>> we need
> >>>> > > to know of expected upgrades earlier than they are released.
> >>>> Obviously this
> >>>> > > shouldn't apply if and update is a crucial bug fix. :)
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Demetris emailed this list 19 days ago, and we haven't changed a
> >>>> string
> >>>> > since. I also alerted the list to string changes as they occurred.
> >>>> Your
> >>>> > translations should be complete; you only need to push a button now.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Andrew,
> >>>>
> >>>> Please don't think of this e-mail as of some attempt to blame you,
> >>>> I'm only agreeing on the point quoted. Sorry if you got me wrong!
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers!
> >>>> WJ
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> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:27:02 +0200
> From: Xavier Borderie <xavier at borderie.net>
> Subject: Re: [wp-polyglots] WordPress 3.0.1 expected around mid July
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> Don't use trunk, use the 3.0.1 tag, or at least the 3.0 branch.
>
> -x.
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> On 30 July 2010 07:18, Peter Holme <peter at holme.se> wrote:
> > nope. that didn't work...
> > These are the settings I use:
> > - Where to take translations from: translate.wordpress.org
> > - Locale branch for dist-files: tags/3.0.1
> > - Project: Development (trunk)
> > - WordPress revision: HEAD (15480)
> > - WordPress version: 3.0.1
> > When these settings are used,?version.php says 3.1-alpha...
> > Peter
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:12, Peter Holme <peter at holme.se> wrote:
> >>
> >> Sorry.. read through the revision statements - it seems we should use
> >> 15480. I'll go with that.
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 07:09, Peter Holme <peter at holme.se> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So what revision are we supposed to use? 15477 or 15480? (I suspect
> >>> I might have used the wrong one for 3.0, 'cause the "upgrade available"
> >>> message has appeared sporadically since I upgraded) Peter (nb_NO)
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 02:55, Milan Dini? <liste at srpski.biz> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Andrew,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please don't think of this e-mail as of some attempt to blame you,
> >>>>> I'm only agreeing on the point quoted. Sorry if you got me wrong!
> >>>>
> >>>> Just to clarify that I too wasn't meaning just on Andrew but to all
> >>>> developers.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2010/7/30 Wac?aw Jacek <mail at waclawjacek.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 08:02:06PM -0400, Andrew Nacin wrote:
> >>>>> > 2010/7/29 Wac?aw Jacek <mail at waclawjacek.com>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 02:36:18AM +0300, Rasheed Bydousi wrote:
> >>>>> > > > I think translators should know about new releases much
> earlier.
> >>>>> > > That's true, in order for us to translate stuff on time and
> >>>>> > > take proper care of the regional communities by providing
> >>>>> > > on-time translations we need to know of expected upgrades
> >>>>> > > earlier than they are released.
> >>>>> > > Obviously this
> >>>>> > > shouldn't apply if and update is a crucial bug fix. :)
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Demetris emailed this list 19 days ago, and we haven't changed a
> >>>>> > string since. I also alerted the list to string changes as they
> >>>>> > occurred.
> >>>>> > Your
> >>>>> > translations should be complete; you only need to push a button
> now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Andrew,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please don't think of this e-mail as of some attempt to blame you,
> >>>>> I'm only agreeing on the point quoted. Sorry if you got me wrong!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers!
> >>>>> WJ
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> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:46:28 +0200
> From: Mattias Tengblad <mst at eyesx.com>
> Subject: Re: [wp-polyglots] WordPress 3.0.1 expected around mid July
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> Well written Milan, I totally agree with you. This has been discussed a
> couple of times over the years but nothing has really changed.
>
> *Mvh*
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> Milan Dini? skrev 2010-07-30 02:26:
> >
> > You should subscribe to the RSS feed at
> > http://wordpress.org/news/category/releases/.
> >
> >
> > You are changing mind :)
> > http://lists.automattic.com/pipermail/wp-polyglots/2010-June/004672.html:
> >
> > I don't see a reason to develop a notification service other
> > than us manually sending an email as we are prepping everything for
> release.
> >
> >
> > Problem with relying on RSS from wp.org/news <http://wp.org/news> is
> > that it is very slow process. We need faster notification via email.
> >
> > Demetris emailed this list 19 days ago, and we haven't changed a
> > string since. I also alerted the list to string changes as they
> > occurred. Your translations should be complete; you only need to
> > push a button now.
> >
> > You first need to know how this process works:
> > - we need to check if there is any new string since last update and if
> > files for direct translation were changed
> > - we commit translations to SVN and need to wait around 10 minutes
> > before we can build a locale package at locale site
> > - we need to wait xx minutes before locale version will appear on
> > upgrade screen even if it was hours before last check to api was made
> > (I just tested this again today: I didn't have notification about
> > update until I went to upgrade screen where I only got option to
> > update to en_US even though locale package was already available on
> > locale.wp.org <http://locale.wp.org>)
> > - if we updated to en_US while there wasn't locale package, we will
> > again receive notification about new version, this time with option to
> > upgrade to locale package
> >
> > So even if we have ready translations and see news about release the
> > same moment as it is posted, we still need xx minutes before new
> > locale version will appear at upgrade screen. And what if we don't
> > release a locale package for several hours or day(s) because we were
> > offline, unaware that new version will be released? Users will update
> > to en_US, some strings will be untranslated (depending if it is
> > version from new branch and how many changes there are in new
> > version), and when new locale version is release they'll again get
> > notification about update and they'll ask "WTF!? I already updated to
> > this version!"
> >
> > We need a different process related to releases. Translators should be
> > warned when new version will be released, not just because they need
> > to update translations, but because they need to be ready to "push a
> > button" (if it was that simple). I could understand if there was need
> > for unplanned release because of discovery of huge security issue that
> > needs to be fixed as soon as possible, but those releases are not that
> > often and you don't have a reason to not inform us in advance.
> >
> > You must be aware that this process is not friendly for translators
> > and for users of locale versions. You must be aware that there are
> > users who use locale version (check for stats for exact percent) and
> > you can't ignore that fact in release process. If you really want to
> > fully support i18n and l10n in automatic upgrades and notification
> > about upgrades, you must stop with current practice and make strict
> > rules with translators about release process which should be followed
> > by everyone.
> >
> > 2010/7/30 Andrew Nacin <wp at andrewnacin.com
> > <mailto:wp at andrewnacin.com>>
> >
> > 3.0.1 has been released.
> >
> > I had an email drafted to polyglots, but we made a last minute
> > change and I got sidetracked.
> >
> > It hasn't been several hours; WordPress 3.0.1 proper was released
> > 72 minutes ago, but I digress. You should subscribe to the RSS
> > feed at http://wordpress.org/news/category/releases/.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Nacin
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Milan Dini? <liste at srpski.biz
> > <mailto:liste at srpski.biz>> wrote:
> >
> > Again no notification in advance (I mean at least several
> > hours) and no notification after release is made (so we still
> > need to use external notification services).
> >
> > I would expect that Nacin would inform us, he was active on
> > this list last months.
> >
> > 2010/7/10 Demetris <kikizas at gmail.com
> > <mailto:kikizas at gmail.com>>
> >
> > Hello, polyglots!
> >
> > This is a note that WordPress 3.0.1 is expected to be
> > released around mid July.
> >
> > Like all maintenance releases, it will be a very good
> > opportunity for
> > translation teams to push
> > improvements/additions/corrections/etc. in
> > their localizations.
> >
> > (I know that I try to take advantage of maintenance
> > releases for that
> > purpose?fixing strings, localizing more strings, etc.?,
> > and I imagine
> > other WordPress translators do the same thing.)
> >
> > Note also that 3.0.1 has a few changes in strings (mainly
> > to correct
> > typos, if I remember correctly). So, remember to update
> > your PO files
> > too!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Demetris
> > http://op111.net/76 ? See what is new in WordPress 3.0!
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