[wp-hackers] Two new, long-overdue plugins to make your wordpress life a little easier...

Dagan Henderson Dagan.Henderson at epyllion.com
Mon Oct 31 14:20:40 UTC 2011

Wow, this debate is still raging, huh?

I've seen a handful of graceful, automatable suggestions for creating dev-staging-production solutions, and still "team-enterprise" is pushing for inclusion in core. What, exactly, is wrong with a plugin? It's precise definition (a set of software components that adds specific capabilities to a larger software application) is a perfect fit for this case.

Consider the enterprise must-have plugins that already exists:

-Domain Mapping (http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wordpress-mu-domain-mapping/)
-Bad Behavior (http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/bad-behavior/)
-WordPress SEO (http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wordpress-seo/)

IMHO, it makes far more sense to develop use-case-specific plugins than to offer a few "common" choices in core. Since there are at least a few pro-root-relative hackers in the conversation right now, why don't you folks band together to help support and extend Marcus' plugin?

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On 31/10/2011 09:46, Mike Little wrote:
> WordPress is a user's tool first and foremost. I agree with that and 
> it should not change. Mike

Bold statement Mike.

On 28/10/2011 19:46, Otto wrote:

> No, but that's not the same thing at all. A dev/staging/production 
> environment is something used by a company to create a continual 
> development process. It's not the same as a demo or test site that you 
> would be showing clients. You're mixing ideas here.

So Otto - you cleary have no concept of heavy enterprise development. 
Here's the process:

- Account owner  / client asks for new section of website, or changes to current website
- DEV team (either in-house, or often in Enterprise, outsourced to a development agency) make said changes.
- Account owner / client will then need to review the change and approve it ready to go live (this person is very often non-technical, and in an Enterprise environment, so you can't start asking HOST file changes or DNS changes)
- DEV team then make said change live
- Account owner then approves change is live.
- Job is closed.

Sometimes we need to do this with time-delays etc ... when launching a specific product for a client, with new features etc ...


Can the list confirm two things then please?

1) WordPress is not looking to improve on Enterprise support as it's too small a use case? If so we'll start looking at more "grown-up" platforms for our clients.

2) If WordPress is so concerned about the DB content being "excatly" 
what you entered, why is there a filter that changes my Wordpress to WordPress (even in URLs that can be case-sensitive)?

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