[wp-hackers] 24-hour has-patch marathon TODAY

Daniel Torreblanca regulatethis at gmail.com
Thu Apr 16 17:49:30 GMT 2009

First of all, I don't think I'm a whiner or a complainer. And
secondly, if there are problems in a community, it is up to the
community members to fix them. And fixing them requires
*communication* from interested parties. I've spent HOURS working on
patches only to have them dismissed outright with no discussion, no
advice. I've spent my fair share of time tackling Trac issues, so
don't presume to tell me what's what here. There's nothing wrong with
wanting a little bit of extra notice for a combined effort.

I seriously don't know why you're so defensive about this. Do you
think my points are not valid? If you actually believe that the
communication/support in this community is at the level that it should
be, then you obviously need to look at some other projects and see how
they run things.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Matt Martz <mdmartz at sivel.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Silverstein, Jesse
> <Jesse.Silverstein at xerox.com> wrote:
>> I think what a few of us are trying to say is, while it was posted on
>> the blog, if Core Devs expect any assistance from the specific group of
>> wp-hackers mailing list subscribers, the advanced warning should have
>> been given _to the wp-hackers mailing list_ as well as on the blog. I
>> myself would have loved to participate in the marathon, but I needed
>> advanced warning to shuffle work around to make time for it, and I
>> didn't (until this incident) subscribe to the dev blog.
> Day in and day out all I see on this list are people whining about
> this or whining about that.
> You don't need a patch marathon or bug hunt to be official to submit a
> patch, provide feedback or help clean up Trac.  Numerous people spend
> large portions of their free time every day submitting bugs and
> patches for WordPress and keeping Trac active and up to date with
> current information.  I spend over 40 hours a week of my "free" time
> giving to the WordPress community.  Those who report bugs, submit
> patches, write plugins, help on the WordPress lists and in the
> WordPress IRC channel are who make this community great.
> Could any of you who are complaining about the short notice be doing
> this?  Why yes you could.  Instead you are going to complain that you
> weren't given enough notice that there was going to be a patch
> marathon.  You complain because you want to make it seem as though you
> would do the community a great service but cannot because the
> community and those behind WordPress make it too difficult or
> inconvenient for you to do so.
> Start making the community better by helping out without having to be
> asked to help out.  Don't make it seem like others are preventing you
> from helping out because they don't give you enough notice that they
> want your help.  This bug hunt is 24-25 hours long.  Go home tonight
> after work and help, stay up an extra hour before going to sleep and
> help, spend your lunch break tomorrow giving to the community.  Make
> the community better by starting with yourself.
> --
> Matt Martz
> matt at sivel.net
> http://sivel.net/
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