[wp-hackers] Splintered Menus in 2.7

[Viper007Bond]

And come to think of it, I wouldn't mind having a section below "Settings"
called "Plugin Settings". That way I can have either open without opening
the other (I have a lotta plugins).

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Viper007Bond <viper at viper007bond.com> wrote:

> The nice thing IMO about the "splintered" menus is that you can show and
> hide exactly what you want to see and don't want to see since it remembers
> your preference in a cookie.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Stephen Rider <wp-hackers at striderweb.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:14 PM, Jeremy Clarke wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Stephen Rider <wp-hackers at striderweb.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You're probably on wp-testers, but this falls right into a thread I
>>>> started
>>>> on that list:
>>>> http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-testers/2008-October/008927.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That thread is 100% spot on in my opinion.
>>>
>>
>> I guess I should have posted that on wp-hackers instead?
>>
>> I'm sorry to cross-post, but I think this is important, and I think it's
>> the kind of thing that a lot of people are seeing.  I'm seeing a lot of
>> comments that sort of glance around this, but nobody's quite struck at the
>> core of the problem.
>>
>> Originally posted on wp-testers:
>>
>> ***
>> It seems that the menus in 2.7 are becoming _extremely_ splintered.  Do we
>> really need ELEVEN menus???
>>
>> By breaking things out so much, I think we're making the layout more
>> "brittle" -- less open to changes or additions.  Write/Manage was a much
>> stronger setup than Posts/Pages/Links/Media.  Especially as plugins add
>> abilities to the system, authors are going to end up having to make more
>> top-level menus because we're losing the more generalized topics such as
>> "write" and "manage".  Either that or we're all going to have a thousand
>> things all crammed under "tools" because that's going to be the only logical
>> place left....
>>
>>        "Hmmm... I used the have the calendar page under 'Manage'.  Huh.  I
>> guess.... Tools?"
>>
>>        "Well, is the 'top of every page' notice (from plugin x) a page or
>> post?  Neither, really.  It used to be under Write.  Guess I have to stick
>> it under Tools...?"
>>
>> That was two good examples just off the top of my head.  We're removing
>> much of the flexibility of the interface by making Top Level menus so
>> specialized.
>>
>> As much as I appreciate feedback, I think designing this via poll is going
>> to give us the proverbial "horse made by a committee".  The geeks in charge
>> (in which I, some tiny bit, include myself) need to have a longer view of
>> things.
>>
>> We can't overlook this, guys, or we're going to end up having to do
>> _another_ redesign two months from now when all these issues come out in
>> real-world use.
>> ***
>>
>> I think we should really rethink the re-menuing of 2.7  The 2.6 menus were
>> very flexible and left a lot of room for any kind of expansion.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>>
>>
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