[wp-forums] Can someone put this guy in his place?

[Mika A Epstein]

Y'know...if this was a forum post I'd walk away ;) Not because I'm 
angry, but because I'm having trouble keeping myself concise.

The tl;dr of this is that I totally agree with Joni (except one bit) 
but, since I don't see a way to make that thread useful without deleting 
it and starting over, I don't really know how else to handle it.

Seriously, I don't. I would not be willing to read through that 
shitstorm of a post to glean out how to fix it, and I don't expect 
newbies to either. So it doesn't help Billy, and it doesn't help anyone 
googling who comes by with the same problem

The bit I don't agree with is more semantics. The forum is for everyone. 
The post you make though is for you first. That it can help anyone else 
is sort of a fringe benefit, but if it can't help you, it can't help 
anyone :)

> Joni Mueller <mailto:joni at jonimueller.com>
> April 25, 2013 10:45 AM
> Because my thinking is if people on there can throw out ideas, they 
> can be useful TO OTHERS WITH THE SAME PROBLEM. Sorry to be shouty, but 
> I have seen this quite a bit on the forums. Someone gets irritated and 
> BAM, thread closed. Never to be seen or heard from, or collectively 
> solved, again.
>
> If we had more threads that were rich with actual solutions, maybe, 
> just maybe, someone might be able to search them (or use Google to 
> find them, just as someone Googled the OP -- go ahead and Google me 
> while you're at it, I don't care) and find a posted solution. Or at 
> least be pointed in the right direction.
>
> I thought the forum was for everyone, not just the OP, who might or 
> might not be a nice person.
>
> And as an aside, not that anyone cares, really, I was on the forums a 
> lot in past years, helping (and I of course had my own questions and 
> problems too). But I got burned out really quickly by so much 
> nastiness, mostly on the part of clueless users (and yeah, they're out 
> there). But I've been back recently to see if I can help some folks 
> out. If I see a thread where someone is having a meltdown or behaving 
> like a little beast, I skip it. Why should I raise my blood pressure 
> to help someone who clearly isn't worth my time or effort? I cherry 
> pick the threads where I will step in and help. That seems to be 
> making a difference at least in my own well being.
>
> Joni Mueller
> www.pixelita.com
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> [ipstenu at ipstenu.org]
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>
> I closed the thread because at a certain point, the circle of pissy gets
> too hard to cope with for anyone :/ If he opens a new one, I'm fine with
> it, so long as everyone's civil.
>
> Too many people were ganging up on him. He was getting pissed off
> because he doesn't understand what's going on, which is fair, and he
> wasn't being helped. This thread was a failure on all parts, yes,
> including ours.
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> Joni Mueller <mailto:joni at jonimueller.com>
> April 25, 2013 10:37 AM
> Well I was going to try to help but the thread is closed. Is this 
> because he is being punished for being obstinate? I find these 
> behaviors (on the part of mods) a bit Lord of the Flies. It doesn't 
> help. Later if someone actually does have a solution, they cannot post 
> it. So how is that helpful?
>
> Joni Mueller
> www.pixelita.com
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> Andrew2.Nevins <mailto:Andrew2.Nevins at live.uwe.ac.uk>
> April 25, 2013 9:44 AM
> Paste Fail
> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/stuck-in-wordpress-hell?replies=24
>
> I think he's a bit too used to being the centre of attention
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