[wp-testers] Upload and use of Images

[Andy Staines]

Thanks for the support Kaf.

If we went with your ideas I might be OK. I don't mind 'options'  
being for 'advanced' users who want them. I find the argument that we  
users are all stupid enough to perform the workflow as David  
described remarkably arrogant. I plan what I am doing and I suspect  
that  I am far from alone.  This might well have been a feature  
requested by many but that's just because everyone who was happy didn't
comment.

So - OK - (1) leave the upload where it is. (2) Let ME THE USER  
choose where I want my images to be stored. I don't want this imposed  
on me and I don't want to change base code. (3) Give me the actual  
code for the image. If not using the editor the drag and drop doesn't  
work properly. Actually it's flaky anyway.  (4) And - so far ignored  
- let ME THE USER CHOOSE if I want a thumbnail created. I don't want  
my valuable space littered with junk I don't want.

On a separate note - I love the preview...

Andy



On 07:52  PM |  Sun 4 Dec 05, at 07:52  PM |  4 Dec 05, Kaf Oseo wrote:

> David House wrote:
>> Old system: start writing post. Realise you want to insert an image.
>> Save post as draft. Click upload. Find file. Upload file. Resume
>> editing of post. Insert (with HTML!) the image.
>> New system: start writing post. Realise you want to insert an image.
>> Scroll down, find image. Upload. Click-drag into post.
>> Which would you prefer?
>
> Well the latter, most certainly. But the new system doesn't prevent an
> option for setting where the upload actually ends up. And that's sort
> of what I stepped into this discussion to highlight.
>
>>> An Options setting letting users decide to keep their old setup  
>>> or go
>>> with the new directory structure (or perhaps a hybrid where they can
>>> at least decide *where* these monthly upload directories will exist)
>>> is just providing users what they already had to begin with.
>> You can decide where you want these monthly directories. However, it
>> will be so infrequently used by most people that it's not an admin
>> option, you have to edit cache.php and stick a line like the  
>> following
>> at the top:
>> define('CACHE_PATH', ABSPATH.'/wp-content/my-new-cache-location');
>
> It's good to know it's easy enough to get at. However, please keep  
> in mind
> that, with the goal to remove clutter and so make things for us  
> "simpler,"
> removing a setting like this from admin causes (some percentage of)  
> users
> to have to edit and maintain the source, as well as add (some small  
> amount)
> to the support burden.
>
> Doesn't make for a good example of "simpler."
>
>>> P.S. Besides, something along these lines (if workable) could  
>>> make for
>>> an interesting user-specific setting.
>> Typical (albeit imaginary :)) user dialogue:
>> 'Hmm... what's this: "Have the upload screen on the Write Post screen
>> or on a seperate page".
>
> Again, latter is best choice, but does not preclude the *option* to  
> choose
> where the upload goes. Which, being a *semi-invisible* option of  
> sorts to
> your inquisitive imaginary user, is not a bad thing. So...
>
> More typical (albeit imaginary :)) user dialogue:
>
> 'Hmm... where the hell are all my uploads going to? Gotta keep  
> track of
> them, since I don't have unlimited space, you know!'
>
> Looks around for a setting, gives up, posts on the support forum.
>
> 'What the hell? What if I don't want to put my images there? And  
> what's
> this? "To change this you must edit a source file, as well as  
> maintain it
> through all future upgrades"?
>
> 'WTF?!'
>
> ;)
>
> -Kaf
>
> P.S. I disagree with this:
>
> > Options are evil.
>
> And overabundance of options can be confusing if not bad program  
> design,
> but if truly evil, why have them at all? Instead, let's make WP  
> install
> with only the most popular (or just most barked about) configuration,
> remove Options from admin (and the database), and have anyone who  
> wants
> to deviate from the norm edit an array of variables in a protected  
> inc?
> This would be the most beneficial move in the goal to remove  
> clutter and
> simplify administrating WordPress, correct?
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