[wp-pro] wp-pro Digest, Vol 60, Issue 12
OTCListings
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Thu Jun 17 08:32:49 UTC 2010
Probably best we don't decide who is a pro, but quickly identify those who are fraudulant and boot them from the list. 2 strike rule, if people make broken promises that is just the way it should be, especially if payment was involved. Craiglist boots people, why shouldn't we? This list isn't really supposed to be another eLance, but there is some good commerce here, and the bad apples do ruin the bunch.
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From: Miriam Schwab
To: Dan Foley
Cc: wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [wp-pro] wp-pro Digest, Vol 60, Issue 12
How are we going to decide who's a pro? What level of knowledge makes one a pro? For example, although I've been working with WordPress for over three years, I'm always learning new things and there are definitely people out there who know more than me.
What I'm saying is there are always going to be different levels of providers and I think that they all have the right to their place in the marketplace.
Miriam
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Miriam Schwab
WPGarage.com
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Dan Foley <dan at micamedia.com> wrote:
Agreed. Only Pros should be on this list.
Dan Foley
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1. Re: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU)
HITESH(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com) (Gustavo Silva Bordoni)
2. Re: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU)
HITESH(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com) (Ashish [Outshine Solutions])
3. Re: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com) (Daniel Cameron)
4. Re: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com) (Daniel Cameron)
5. Fwd: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com) (MLR)
6. Re: Fwd: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com) (mailapera)
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:48:18 -0300
From: Gustavo Silva Bordoni<webord.net at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU)
HITESH(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
To: OTCListings<info at otclistings.com>, wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
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Agreed.
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+55 (21) 9416-4506
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 08:55, OTCListings<info at otclistings.com> wrote:
Interesting, you have my vote for Black List... should you remove people
from this list if they are NOT WP PRO people. Definately something to take
up with the list manager. I would say take a stiff approach and cut people
out if they are not pro's or professional.
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*From:* Bob Matsuoka<bob at mokamedianyc.com>
*To:* wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:00 PM
*Subject:* [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH(
kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
Just a heads up that I entered in an agreement with Hitesh last year to
develop a custom WP plugin for me (found him on this list). After agreeing
on the scope of work and price, I gave him a down payment to begin work.
After several weeks of stalling, he admitted that he was unable to complete
the task, and in fact never delivered a single line of code. He has
admitted fault and indicated he would refund my deposit, but has not done so
after over a year.
I am happy to provide an email trail if you're interested in the details
for proof. Hitesh is long on reassurances and talk, very short on delivery.
I would stay far away.
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:22:27 +0530
From: "Ashish [Outshine Solutions]"<ashish at outshinesolutions.com>
Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU)
HITESH(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:49:55 -0700
From: Daniel Cameron<dan at sproutventure.com>
Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
To: Bob Matsuoka<bob at mokamedianyc.com>
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Very similar results. I set him up with a small project to see if I could
outsource some of my small projects. Total FAIL!! Just copied an existing
plugin and didn't do anything.
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:56:39 -0700
From: Daniel Cameron<dan at sproutventure.com>
Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
To: Sam Hotchkiss<sam at hotchkissconsulting.net>
Cc: Bob Matsuoka<bob at mokamedianyc.com>, wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
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I had the same idea when a thread about clients came up on this list last
year. Never transpired because people talked about risk
of unwarranted feedback ( on both ends ).
PS: I think this should be taken off list, maybe someone with a blog can
post about it :)
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:54:45 -0400
From: MLR<mlrichard at gmail.com>
Subject: [wp-pro] Fwd: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
To: wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
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From: MLR<mlrichard at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH (
kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
To: Daniel Cameron<dan at sproutventure.com>
Anyone who builds such a database should first and foremost consider making
it a feedback system similar to systems found in eBay or Etsy so that good
comments can be shared. I have had some major fails and some wonderful wins
when it comes to clients found on this forum and all things considered I
would myself rather hire someone with a majority of positive feedback about
similar projects rather than the unknown newbie who simply has 0 negative
feedback yet. A black list system is just Yuk and negative and attracts
unprofessional venting.
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Daniel Cameron<dan at sproutventure.com>wrote:
I had the same idea when a thread about clients came up on this list last
year. Never transpired because people talked about risk
of unwarranted feedback ( on both ends ).
PS: I think this should be taken off list, maybe someone with a blog can
post about it :)
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:29:43 +0200
From: mailapera<mailapera at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Fwd: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
To: wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
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Yes I think transparency is key. I had a lot of bad experiences here,
and a couple of good ones. I have no idea why there is so much worry
about bad feedback. When you do a good job people say it outright. If
you are interested on positive feedback only try Flattr then ;) A
balanced way of sharing feedback is foremost important, especially
when you work long distance like it often happens here. Plus people
have better things to do than just vent for no reason here.
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:54 PM, MLR<mlrichard at gmail.com> wrote:
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From: MLR<mlrichard at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
(kaneriya.hitesh at gmail.com)
To: Daniel Cameron<dan at sproutventure.com>
Anyone who builds such a database should first and foremost consider making
it a feedback system similar to systems found in eBay or Etsy so that good
comments can be shared. I have had some major fails and some wonderful wins
when it comes to clients found on this forum and all things considered I
would myself rather hire someone with a majority of positive feedback about
similar projects rather than the unknown newbie who simply has 0 negative
feedback yet. A black list system is just Yuk and negative and attracts
unprofessional venting.
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Daniel Cameron<dan at sproutventure.com>
wrote:
I had the same idea when a thread about clients came up on this list last
year. Never transpired because people talked about risk
of?unwarranted?feedback ( on both ends ).
PS: I think this should be taken off list, maybe someone with a blog can
post about it :)
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