[wp-pro] WordPress Coolie

[Angsuman Chakraborty]

I think the general mindset is that the software is free so the service
should also be free or nearly free. It is a simple case of freebies
corrupting the market for honest hard work. And then there are people whose
mindset is to abhor anything non-free, in Richard Stallmanish ways. They
believe everything should be free, conveniently forgetting that too should
be working in their day-jobs for free, without expecting any remuneration
whatsoever.
In my simplistic world view this is a form of mis-guided communism, but what
do I know.

-- Angsuman


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:wp-pro-bounces at lists.automattic.com]On Behalf Of alec kinnear
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:14 AM
To: wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
Subject: Re: [wp-pro] WordPress Coolie
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Hello Rich,

>I discarded a reply to the gantdesign email because it got to rude. I
>also added in that email that I was beginning to think that this list
>has become a bit of a joke! Is there something someone can do about
>this please or do I need to unsubscribe?
>
>Just an opinion.
>--
>Rich
>http://www.cregy.co.uk
>Embracing what God does for you is the best thing you can do for him.
>Romans 12 v 1

Perhaps we need some kind of about this list info section on the same
page where one gets the address -
http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-pro. On top of that
perhaps somebody's first post should be moderated.

And then someone could stop these visitors from posting their $10
jobs or freebie jobs here.

I've seen a lot of these kinds of proposals over at the jobs board
ProBlogger.com. "Build me a supersophisticated weblog/CMS, write me
three posts a day and I'll slip you a fifty month", from
inexperienced and bothered would-be marketers.

I can see why the guild system rose in the Middle Ages.

I thought this list was supposed to be for the WordPress guild. Is
there another, better mailing list or forum out there or should we
clean up this list and publicize it more widely?

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To give everybody an idea of what happens both with a tender and with
a bid, here is my experience on this board on both ends.

On this list I put out a tender for someone to port a single
non-commercial weblog from Typepad to WordPress, as we haven't done
that before. I only had a few incoming bids. Those that did come in
were from very qualified people and generally in the USD$60/hour to
$120/hour category. Frankly, those rates were much higher than I
expected. In the end I offered a very good developer a flat USD$200
to complete the port (still not done as no one can rescue the weblog
archives from Typepad in the shape the developer wants it - this
project still very much needs doing). At the time, I felt it was not
a lot of money for the work involved.

On the other side, I've also bid on jobs here (adaptation of an
existing sophisticated commercial site to WordPress which is
something of a specialty for us). Apparently the tenderer was deluged
in offers, mostly less expensive than ours which was around USD$1000.
Frankly, that was not a lot of money to do it right for the size of
the job. The work was a subcontract from an IT shop - which explains
a lot of the extreme price pressure. Had I known it was a subcontract
we probably would not have bid on the project at all.


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  alec kinnear | creative director - http://foliovision.com

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