[wp-pro] WordPress Coolie

alec kinnear wppro at emailias.com
Wed Jan 24 18:44:14 GMT 2007


Hello Rich,

>I discarded a reply to the gantdesign email because it got to rude. I
>also added in that email that I was beginning to think that this list
>has become a bit of a joke! Is there something someone can do about
>this please or do I need to unsubscribe?
>
>Just an opinion.
>--
>Rich
>http://www.cregy.co.uk
>Embracing what God does for you is the best thing you can do for him.
>Romans 12 v 1

Perhaps we need some kind of about this list info section on the same 
page where one gets the address - 
http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-pro. On top of that 
perhaps somebody's first post should be moderated.

And then someone could stop these visitors from posting their $10 
jobs or freebie jobs here.

I've seen a lot of these kinds of proposals over at the jobs board 
ProBlogger.com. "Build me a supersophisticated weblog/CMS, write me 
three posts a day and I'll slip you a fifty month", from 
inexperienced and bothered would-be marketers.

I can see why the guild system rose in the Middle Ages.

I thought this list was supposed to be for the WordPress guild. Is 
there another, better mailing list or forum out there or should we 
clean up this list and publicize it more widely?

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To give everybody an idea of what happens both with a tender and with 
a bid, here is my experience on this board on both ends.

On this list I put out a tender for someone to port a single 
non-commercial weblog from Typepad to WordPress, as we haven't done 
that before. I only had a few incoming bids. Those that did come in 
were from very qualified people and generally in the USD$60/hour to 
$120/hour category. Frankly, those rates were much higher than I 
expected. In the end I offered a very good developer a flat USD$200 
to complete the port (still not done as no one can rescue the weblog 
archives from Typepad in the shape the developer wants it - this 
project still very much needs doing). At the time, I felt it was not 
a lot of money for the work involved.

On the other side, I've also bid on jobs here (adaptation of an 
existing sophisticated commercial site to WordPress which is 
something of a specialty for us). Apparently the tenderer was deluged 
in offers, mostly less expensive than ours which was around USD$1000. 
Frankly, that was not a lot of money to do it right for the size of 
the job. The work was a subcontract from an IT shop - which explains 
a lot of the extreme price pressure. Had I known it was a subcontract 
we probably would not have bid on the project at all.


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  alec kinnear | creative director - http://foliovision.com 
                     
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