[wp-ui] Woo Custom Navigation system

Fri Feb 12 14:05:04 UTC 2010

Here's the post from the Woo guys bigging up their nav... seems to be
before it was mooted for core though:

http://www.woothemes.com/2010/01/the-awesome-custom-woo-navigation/

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On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Ash Goodman <ash at thinkinginvain.com> wrote:
> How would this affect the front end flexibiliy? For example I use meta
> values to assign pages to different navigation menus (main and footer for
> instance). Will that kind of fucntionaity still be present. Or better still,
> can Woo's system be made to support multiple navigation menus? Is it
> something a theme can support/not support like page thumbnails.
>
> I realise this may not be the right place to ask these questions, but I
> haven't heard anything about this on the wp-hackers list (I only signed up
> in the last couple of weeks) nor have I seen anything about it anywhere
> else. And I don't have a woo theme.(I probably should buy one). Can anyone
> point me to where this is being discussed? And a timeline for its
> implementation?
>
> On 12 February 2010 20:00, <wp-ui-request at lists.automattic.com> wrote:
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:52:58 -0600
>> From: Emil Payne <EHSPayne at angelwoodpines.org>
>> Subject: Re: [wp-ui] Tabbed theme interface mockups
>> To: wp-ui at lists.automattic.com
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>> Yes, but the overriding idea of this group is that we are CHANGING the
>> current overall look.  That may not be the goal, but it will be an
>> outcome.  Therefore, rejecting ideas because they will make things
>> different is not a working model.  Although I still agree that #1 looks
>> better to me.
>>
>> Emil
>>
>> Edgar Tanaka wrote:
>> > Hello Gaston,
>> >
>> > The first choice seems like a better choice to me because it looks more
>> > uniform like most of the other screens in WordPress.
>> >
>> >
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:16:07 -0500
>> From: Jane Wells <jane at automattic.com>
>> Subject: Re: [wp-ui] Tabbed theme interface mockups
>> To: wp-ui at lists.automattic.com
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>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Emil Payne wrote:
>> > Yes, but the overriding idea of this group is that we are CHANGING
>> > the current overall look.  That may not be the goal, but it will be
>> > an outcome.  Therefore, rejecting ideas because they will make
>> > things different is not a working model.
>>
>> Actually, making choices that are uniform to the current look of
>> WordPress should be a guiding principle. We are not here to change the
>> current overall look at all; we're here to tidy up specific things
>> that could be a little better while staying within the current UI.
>> j
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:55:15 -0300
>> From: Edgar Tanaka <edgartanaka at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [wp-ui] Tabbed theme interface mockups
>> To: wp-ui at lists.automattic.com
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>> Sorry. I'm new here in this list so I might have missed the discussion
>> about
>> what is the purpose and goal of the WP design group.
>>
>> If the idea is to change the current look overall then I agree with Emil
>> but
>> I believe we then need to look at WP from a wider view and make changes in
>> a
>> top-down approach.
>>
>> If the idea is to make small changes, then I stick to the 1st option.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Jane Wells <jane at automattic.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Emil Payne wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yes, but the overriding idea of this group is that we are CHANGING the
>> >> current overall look.  That may not be the goal, but it will be an
>> >> outcome.
>> >>  Therefore, rejecting ideas because they will make things different is
>> >> not a
>> >> working model.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Actually, making choices that are uniform to the current look of
>> > WordPress
>> > should be a guiding principle. We are not here to change the current
>> > overall
>> > look at all; we're here to tidy up specific things that could be a
>> > little
>> > better while staying within the current UI.
>> >
>> > j
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:08:07 -0600
>> From: Emil Payne <EHSPayne at angelwoodpines.org>
>> Subject: Re: [wp-ui] Tabbed theme interface mockups
>> To: wp-ui at lists.automattic.com
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>> Jane Wells wrote:
>> > On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Emil Payne wrote:
>> >> Yes, but the overriding idea of this group is that we are CHANGING the
>> >> current overall look.  That may not be the goal, but it will be an
>> >> outcome.  Therefore, rejecting ideas because they will make things
>> >> different is not a working model.
>> >
>> > Actually, making choices that are uniform to the current look of
>> > WordPress should be a guiding principle. We are not here to change the
>> > current overall look at all; we're here to tidy up specific things that
>> > could be a little better while staying within the current UI.
>> > j
>>
>> I sit corrected. (Difficult to stand and use keyboard at same time.).
>> However, a fear or loathing of change is a bad thing.
>>
>> Uniformity is a good thing.  At least that was beaten into me in boot
>> camp lo those many years ago.
>>
>> Emil
>>
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:42:28 -0600
>> From: Tracy Cannon <tracy at carpelgin.com>
>> Subject: [wp-ui] Style Guide (Tabbed theme interface mockups)
>> To: wp-ui at lists.automattic.com
>> Message-ID: <4B742564.30709 at carpelgin.com>
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>>
>> Is there a wordpress style guide?
>>
>> I've been playing with a way to unify or at least address all the
>> versions of the Menu Management section that have been tossed around.
>> (And in doing so looked into a few versions of the tab interface.)
>>
>> Now my 2 cents: Since this is such a new group, a really good low
>> priority project would be to look at the visual & interaction patterns
>> that already exist. That way we can re-use what already exists in new
>> designs, identify where there inconsistencies and have a common
>> language to share when discussing larger changes.
>>
>> (I guess something like the codex...)
>>
>> Now off to finish what I started.
>>
>> Tracy Cannon
>>
>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:46:55 -0500
>> From: Jane Wells <jane at automattic.com>
>> Subject: Re: [wp-ui] Tabbed theme interface mockups
>> To: wp-ui at lists.automattic.com
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>>
>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Edgar Tanaka wrote:
>> > If the idea is to change the current look overall then I agree with
>> > Emil but I believe we then need to look at WP from a wider view and
>> > make changes in a top-down approach.
>>
>> As has been stated in various blog posts, initial emails to this list,
>> etc, this group is NOT being formed to change the current look of
>> WordPress. At all. The goal was to have an infrastructure for user
>> experience/interface designers to contribute to core tickets, just as
>> there is an infrastructure for developers to participate. The
>> development infrastructure gets clogged up when people start arguing
>> over small UI details, so we split it off to have a more focused
>> group. If someone wants to start a movement to try and convince the
>> project leadership to undergo another overall admin redesign, this is
>> not the place for it.
>>
>> I repeat: this group was created to contribute to ongoing UI efforts
>> in WordPress core, NOT to redesign the application. This has been
>> stated categorically by WordPress leadership...the current design is
>> one that people are happy with as a foundation for improvement over
>> the next couple of years.
>> j
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:51:46 -0500
>> From: Jane Wells <jane at automattic.com>
>> Subject: Re: [wp-ui] Style Guide (Tabbed theme interface mockups)
>> To: wp-ui at lists.automattic.com
>> Message-ID: <88DC5AC1-0CE5-4CCF-9634-BF7ECC628FB8 at automattic.com>
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>>
>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Tracy Cannon wrote:
>> > Is there a wordpress style guide?
>> Matt Thomas had planned to write one when the styling of 2.7 was first
>> done, but other projects got in the way. I'd actually planned to post
>> a styleguide project as one of the items that people could help with;
>> there'll be a post on the UI blog about it next week.
>>
>>
>> > I've been playing with a way to unify or at least address all the
>> > versions of the Menu Management section that have been tossed around.
>> Good news: it looks like we'll be incorporating the Woo Custom
>> Navigation system into core. I've spoken with Woo and they are working
>> on turning their custom menu system into a core patch. Since everyone
>> likes their system, this should save us a lot of menu debate. It
>> allows for mixing pages, categories and external links, reordering, etc.
>> j
>>
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