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[DD32]

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:14:13 +1100, deliciousdays  
<oliver.seidel at deliciousdays.com> wrote:

> I agree, the 980px limitation in width is not good *to say the least*
> and the fact that a 'plugin' is offered to overwrite this CSS setting is
> a joke, right?!
> No offense intended D, but I'm getting more and more frustrated with
> many of the recent design and UI decisions.

None taken at all, The way i see it though, Is that the design choice has  
been made for the 2.5 release, I dont agree with it, I might as well offer  
a plugin to change it. Theres a few things i dont agree with the new  
interface, but its not worth going into them all.

The feedback given will be what steers the UI changes, Theres been a  
remarkably small number of complaints about the width from what i've seen,  
which means most people who have been testing dont mind that much. Most  
feedback on the changes have been positive, So its either people like it,  
They dont care, or they dont complain.

If once 2.5 is released, and theres a huge backlash of users wanting their  
fluid back, then feedback may dictate a change to be made.

If those who want the fluid design back, feel strong enough about it, go  
rate it: http://wordpress.org/extend/ideas/topic.php?id=1291 Might as well  
collate the votes somewhere.

> To a point where I simply don't care and am happy (and already have) to
> apply my own admin CSS theme with JS driven menu tabs.
>
> But why not spend more time on fixing real issues than trying so hard to
> come up with a different UI, that seems to be put together 'on-the-fly'.

To be fair, HappyCog( http://www.happycog.com/ ) did put a fair ammount of  
effort into the new design, And based it around a lot of user research,  
Put together some wireframe mockups of a better interface, And piece by  
piece, the Devs have done a great job of implementing the changes, and  
improving WP in so many other ways at the same time.

WP 2.5 also includes the ability for Plugins to overrule the Admin theme  
all together, So i'd expect to see a few spinoffs which improve upon the  
current design, If the changes are popular enough, then i'm sure Devs  
would consider pulling those changes into the core.
Once you've used the 2.5 admin for awhile, Its much comfier, if you've  
just changed over from the old interface, then its going to take some time  
to get your grips on it, As expected.

All i'm trying to say, Is give it a chance before writing it off entirely.

There'll allways be people who do *not* want to change,

There'll be people claiming the old interface is better, and *nothing*  
will change their minds,
There'll be people who like it, but dont agree with some aspects,
and there'll be those who love it,

Those 3 groups of people are expected,
Theres people who absolutely hate the old interface,
Theres people who liked it, but found it cumbersome, or felt it was time  
for a change,
and theres people who loved it.

Point is, nothing much has changed, its just the people may have switched  
group.

So, If someone doesnt like a current design choice, Voice it, get it  
known, Who knows, Fluid width might be back in 2.5.1

> O
>
> PS: Someone somewhere wrote "WP is the new Windows" - I hope not.
>
>
> DD32 wrote:
>> Aparantly most people prefer a thin content frame rather than a fluid  
>> content frame.
>>
>> Personally, If i want my content thin, i resize the browser window.
>>
>> I wrote up a plugin to remove the maximum width if you would like to  
>> try a full width admin.
>> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/remove-max-width/
>>
>> D
>>
>> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:06:49 +1100, Eric Amundson  
>> <sewmyheadon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 03/26/2008 Vladimir Vuckovic wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know is this bug, but I'm running my computer on 1280x960
>>>> pixels and I notice that whole WordPress 2.5 (which is so amazing) is
>>>> on the left align, not centered or streched 100%... I think that it's
>>>> better to be in whole window, not only on the left and there's a lot
>>>> of blank space at the right...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Vladimir
>>>>
>>> Hi Vladimir,
>>>
>>> I'm running on a few monitors - both wide screens.
>>>
>>> I think if you look closer, the header and footer expand to fill the
>>> width of the browser, no matter what the width.
>>>
>>> The 'body' of the admin panel, which is wrapped in a div class="wrap"
>>> has a max-width of 980px, which is likely to spare the design from
>>> breaking or becoming too hard to read (excessive line lengths), when
>>> maximized on wider screens.
>>>
>>> I like this a lot and rarely maximize my browser anyway on a wider  
>>> screen.
>>>
>>> eric
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