[wp-hackers] WordPress Maturity (was)Re: hate

Mike Little wordpress at zed1.com
Tue Apr 30 18:10:09 UTC 2013

On 30 April 2013 18:22, Shasta Willson <shastaw at gmail.com> wrote:

> In many ways this is a hostile environment if you have anything other than
> pure praise, no matter how carefully you explain your case or how politely
> you put it. Nothing is perfect, but the ability to listen to criticism
> openly is a sign of a mature environment, and absolutely critical to
> improvement.
All this (and other contributions to this thread) seems to ignore the fact
that many, many contributions *are* accepted, and people's suggestions
*are* incorporated. For example, 260 people individually named as
contributors (http://wordpress.org/news/2012/12/elvin/) or the 950 track
tickets resolved (
in version 3.5

That's hardly hostile or not accepting of changes.

Yes, there are things that the core team are reluctant to change, but that
doesn't include everything. And it doesn't mean that things will never
change, but maybe that a viable solution with enough advantages hasn't yet
been proposed *and proven*.

As for those implying that the WordPress (core) developers have no
experience of deploying at scale, please take a look at

As hard a fact as it is to swallow, everyone on this list is part of a
minority of WordPress users. Some of the things that affect you and a dozen
other people on this list are really edge cases.

And if you are still interested in somebody else providing a solution for
deploying from test/staging or moving WordPress installations, there are
mature supported solutions out there:


And I don't expect these two example will address everyone's concerns.
Maybe go buy their products and as a paying customer they might consider
some of your suggestions to improve the way they work.

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