[wp-hackers] opinions for a multi-language plugin for WordPress

Leo germani leogermani at gmail.com
Tue Feb 15 21:39:39 UTC 2011

hi Jeremy,

I like your idea for the widgets, I will trry it out.

About the Multi Site alternative, I was thought of it (and used it) as a
work around. Does this plugin you mention that saves relationships between
posts in the different subsites exists? If not, it seems quite easy to do,
but then I think its another plugin, not this one Im describing. I mean, I
dont think its possible to do both things with the same plugin.

Nice thing about using single site WordPress is that you can have a multi
site instalation and each blog can have multiple languages...


On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Jeremy Clarke <jer at simianuprising.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Leo germani <leogermani at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > If you got all the way here, thanks very much for your attention, please
> > share your insights
> >
> Widgets/sidebars is one of the failures of WPML, so having a good way of
> fixing that is important. My thinking is that the easiest way would be to
> duplicate all sidebars at the sidebar definition level, leaving the
> original
> for the default language (often English), then within your plugin defining
> clones of each  sidebar for the other relevant languages (i.e.
> 'call-to-action' and 'call-to-action-es')
> IMHO that would be a lot simpler for both the code and the user to
> understand than trying to have widget-by-widget translations. It wouldn't
> require any custom UI to be built, you'd just have to call
> register_sidebar() and figure out a way to filter the sidebar label when it
> is called by dynamic_sidebar(). It's also very possible that one of the
> sites doesn't want all the widgets from the other (e.g. there is an english
> twitter promoted in a widget, but not spanish twitter so no need for that
> widget in the ES version), so translating on a sidebar level gives finer
> control over which widgets are present in which language.
> Personally I think a lot of organizations would be better off with an MS
> install that has the languages in different 'sites', with the plugin only
> keeping track of the relationships between source posts on one site and
> their translation on another. In that scenario disabling the plugin doesn't
> lose any of the content, it remains available at the same URLs, only the
> links between languages are lost until the plugin can be updated/replaced.
> There is certainly room in WP for both types of plugins (multi-site and
> single-site) but at the moment all the serious plugins use the single-site
> approach, with the muiltisite approach only being used in closed systems
> with custom plugins (Me and Frank for example). IMHO WP users are desperate
> for a full-featured plugin like qTranslate or WPML but with the multi-site
> approach. I use one on Global Voices but it is not at all the solution that
> the general community needs (it doesn't use multisite, but instead links
> together completely different installations) so I won't be writing this
> fantasy plugin until I change a lot of other things about our setup first.
> Good luck! Since WPML went commercial there is suddenly a great vacuum in
> WP
> multilingualism that could be filled. Here's hoping the qTranslate guy also
> does some good work in the near future and there is more competition than
> ever :)
> --
> Jeremy Clarke • jeremyclarke.org
> Code and Design • globalvoicesonline.org
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