[wp-hackers] Bundled Plug-ins

[Joel Fisher]

Akismet isn't free anymore. Check it out. I use my old API key which still works but their site references payment.


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On Oct 2, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:

> An "external" in SVN terms is simply a chunk of code that is directly
> included from some other SVN repository. That way, when Akismet
> updates, then they don't have to reimport it into the WordPress trunk
> or get the updates or anything like that. It's just automatically
> included.
> 
> Externals are ways to combine pieces of code from other projects
> without having to constantly refresh them manually.
> 
> -Otto
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Ozh <ozh at ozh.org> wrote:
>> While we're on this subject, if anyone has a good explanation on why
>> Akismet is an "external", I'd be grateful. I don't get why parts of WP
>> are, well, parts of WP, while other parts of WP are "externals". From
>> a user POV this does not make a lot of sense IMO.
>> 
>> On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Eric Mann <eric at eamann.com> wrote:
>>> I've just become very sensitive to anything asking me to update immediately
>>> after I install what I'm told is the latest version.  It's a bit confusing
>>> to download a fresh file, install it, and immediately see any kind of
>>> "update available" message.
>>> 
>>> No, I like the idea of including the plugin with WordPress core ... but it
>>> would be nice if we could somehow update the core download package (the ZIP
>>> file you get when clicking "download" on wordpress.org) when externals are
>>> updated.
>>> 
>>>> Many software distributions, once installed will check if there was an
>>> update.  This is pretty common practice from what I've seen.
>>> 
>>> Just because it's a common practice doesn't mean it's the right way to do
>>> things or something we should embrace.  Anything that can potentially
>>> confuse a user is "bad" in my book, common practice or no ...
>>> 
>>> ~Eric
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
>>> [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Paul
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 7:21 AM
>>> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
>>> Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Bundled Plug-ins
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Eric Mann wrote:
>>> 
>>>> conjurs up flashbacks of the endless
>>>> update-reboot-update-reboot cycle that drives many people away from
>>>> Microsoft Windows.
>>> 
>>> Really? That is a little dramatic I think. The Akismet upgrade doesn't force
>>> you to reboot your server or anything close.
>>> 
>>> Would you rather have the plugin excluded from the WordPress core? Then you
>>> would need to download and install it separate. Many software distributions,
>>> once installed will check it there was an update. This is pretty common
>>> practice from what I've seen.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> P-
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