[wp-hackers] Best SEO plugin?
David Law
wp-hackers at google-adsense-templates.co.uk
Sun Nov 14 02:51:18 UTC 2010
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:51:59 +0100, you wrote:
>David,
>
>before you insult people, check out who you're insulting. If you're this
>good, beat me at "WordPress SEO" in the rankings [1]. I've been doing SEO
>for 8 years and been getting results all that time, the best SEO's in the
>world will tell you I know what I'm doing. [2] I wrote the first canonical
>plugin for WordPress before it was in core because Matt Cutts himself saw
>fit to ask me to do that. [3] Please, seriously, go play somewhere else with
>your AdSense Templates. Some of us make money doing SEO on actual sites that
>don't have to hide doing SEO.
Didn't want to add to a childish post on the WP-Hackers list, so
rather than responding here, I've put my response at
http://www.45-year-old-millionaire.co.uk/wordpress-seo-plugins-and-seo-experts.html
Also wrote a full (very detailed) review of the plugin in question at
http://www.google-adsense-templates.co.uk/yoast-wordpress-seo-plugin-review.html
Comments are open on both pages.
I won't respond on the list regarding this thread again unless I've
got something constructive to add.
David
--
Monetize your WordPress blog with Search Engine Optimized templates
including AdSense ads http://www.google-adsense-templates.co.uk/
>I wanted to insert some expletives there but refrained from doing that.
>Couldn't refrain from this rant though.
>
>Seriously, stop wasting the valuable time of the great developers on this
>list and go help your customers some more.
>
>Best
>Joost
>
>[1] my ranking for WordPress SEO:
>http://www.google.com/search?q=wordpress%20seo&pws=0
>[2] check out my LinkedIn recommendations:
>http://www.linkedin.com/in/jdevalk
>[3] Matt Cutts mentioning me in his canonical release movie:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm9onOGTgeM
>
>On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:38 AM, David Law <
>wp-hackers at google-adsense-templates.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 22:51:59 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:17 PM, David Law <
>> >wp-hackers at google-adsense-templates.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> You are missing the point, from an SEO perspective we don't want ANY
>> >> nofollow links as they delete PR/link benefit (see earlier in the
>> >> thread), but from a user perspective we still want the option to link
>> >> in comments.
>> >>
>> >> So switch nofollow with another way to link out without passing link
>> >> benefit and damaging a sites SEO and you have a solution. My solution
>> >> is to use forms for author links (see comments on my site in the sig,
>> >> that site has no nofollow links and doesn't link out with text links
>> >> as the author comment links are forms).
>> >>
>> >
>> >This seems pretty shady to many and I would hate to see core do this. I
>> >would rather see core provide quality semantic code (you know, like only
>> >using forms when you have, I don't know, a form), then play some SEO game.
>> > the hooks are in place that if you want to modify the content of the
>> output
>> >of your comments, you are more then welcome. If there is a need for
>> >additional hooks, I fully support adding those.
>>
>> Although using forms to serve author URLs isn't shady, I wasn't
>> suggesting using forms this way in core WordPress, mainly because it
>> would probably break (mess up the formatting) of every theme available
>> today. I was pointing out there is at least one solution, so others
>> who like me understand SEO and want the most from WordPress have a
>> solution at theme level.
>>
>> For those interested in using forms to stop comment author URLs
>> passing link benefit without using the nofollow attribute, it's not
>> blackhat SEO, because you are not trying to game the search engines**.
>> Google wants webmasters to NOT pass link benefit to sites they are not
>> reccomending. That was the whole point of the introduction of nofollow
>> in the first place, unfortunatly Google moved the goal posts on
>> nofollow presumably because there are those that abuse nofollow by
>> attempting to sculpt PR by nofollowing internal pages (contact, about
>> etc...). It could be argued those who use nofollow to sculpt PR for
>> example those who use plugins like All in One SEO are being pennalised
>> by Google, they are loosing a LOT of link benefit.
>>
>> ** I have about 70 WordPress installations running a theme with the
>> author URLs as forms (most of my traffic is from Google, currently at
>> around 40,000 unique visitors a day). I have hundreds of customers
>> running the same theme and I've never had a report of a customer
>> having worse search engine rankings after using the theme. I'll add I
>> tested the concept on my own sites for over 6 months before adding the
>> code to the theme I send to customers.
>>
>> Anyway, as it is I'm happy to know WordPress development are aware of
>> the damaging aspects of nofollow and hopefully they'll try to limit
>> it's use in the future. I know it's a difficult problem to solve, if
>> it was easy I wouldn't be using forms to solve the issue :-)
>>
>> David
>> --
>> Monetize your WordPress blog with Search Engine Optimized templates
>> including AdSense ads http://www.google-adsense-templates.co.uk/
>>
>>
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