[wp-hackers] Best SEO plugin?
Joost de Valk
joost at yoast.com
Thu Nov 11 21:51:59 UTC 2010
David,
before you insult people, check out who you're insulting. If you're this
good, beat me at "WordPress SEO" in the rankings [1]. I've been doing SEO
for 8 years and been getting results all that time, the best SEO's in the
world will tell you I know what I'm doing. [2] I wrote the first canonical
plugin for WordPress before it was in core because Matt Cutts himself saw
fit to ask me to do that. [3] Please, seriously, go play somewhere else with
your AdSense Templates. Some of us make money doing SEO on actual sites that
don't have to hide doing SEO.
I wanted to insert some expletives there but refrained from doing that.
Couldn't refrain from this rant though.
Seriously, stop wasting the valuable time of the great developers on this
list and go help your customers some more.
Best
Joost
[1] my ranking for WordPress SEO:
http://www.google.com/search?q=wordpress%20seo&pws=0
[2] check out my LinkedIn recommendations:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jdevalk
[3] Matt Cutts mentioning me in his canonical release movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm9onOGTgeM
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:38 AM, David Law <
wp-hackers at google-adsense-templates.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 22:51:59 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:17 PM, David Law <
> >wp-hackers at google-adsense-templates.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> You are missing the point, from an SEO perspective we don't want ANY
> >> nofollow links as they delete PR/link benefit (see earlier in the
> >> thread), but from a user perspective we still want the option to link
> >> in comments.
> >>
> >> So switch nofollow with another way to link out without passing link
> >> benefit and damaging a sites SEO and you have a solution. My solution
> >> is to use forms for author links (see comments on my site in the sig,
> >> that site has no nofollow links and doesn't link out with text links
> >> as the author comment links are forms).
> >>
> >
> >This seems pretty shady to many and I would hate to see core do this. I
> >would rather see core provide quality semantic code (you know, like only
> >using forms when you have, I don't know, a form), then play some SEO game.
> > the hooks are in place that if you want to modify the content of the
> output
> >of your comments, you are more then welcome. If there is a need for
> >additional hooks, I fully support adding those.
>
> Although using forms to serve author URLs isn't shady, I wasn't
> suggesting using forms this way in core WordPress, mainly because it
> would probably break (mess up the formatting) of every theme available
> today. I was pointing out there is at least one solution, so others
> who like me understand SEO and want the most from WordPress have a
> solution at theme level.
>
> For those interested in using forms to stop comment author URLs
> passing link benefit without using the nofollow attribute, it's not
> blackhat SEO, because you are not trying to game the search engines**.
> Google wants webmasters to NOT pass link benefit to sites they are not
> reccomending. That was the whole point of the introduction of nofollow
> in the first place, unfortunatly Google moved the goal posts on
> nofollow presumably because there are those that abuse nofollow by
> attempting to sculpt PR by nofollowing internal pages (contact, about
> etc...). It could be argued those who use nofollow to sculpt PR for
> example those who use plugins like All in One SEO are being pennalised
> by Google, they are loosing a LOT of link benefit.
>
> ** I have about 70 WordPress installations running a theme with the
> author URLs as forms (most of my traffic is from Google, currently at
> around 40,000 unique visitors a day). I have hundreds of customers
> running the same theme and I've never had a report of a customer
> having worse search engine rankings after using the theme. I'll add I
> tested the concept on my own sites for over 6 months before adding the
> code to the theme I send to customers.
>
> Anyway, as it is I'm happy to know WordPress development are aware of
> the damaging aspects of nofollow and hopefully they'll try to limit
> it's use in the future. I know it's a difficult problem to solve, if
> it was easy I wouldn't be using forms to solve the issue :-)
>
> David
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