[wp-hackers] Best SEO plugin?

Mon Nov 8 03:17:05 UTC 2010

On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 20:14:42 -0600, you wrote:

>What about this plugin?
>
>http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/nofollow-case-by-case/
>
>Chris Carter
>314media.com

You are missing the point, from an SEO perspective we don't want ANY
nofollow links as they delete PR/link benefit (see earlier in the
thread), but from a user perspective we still want the option to link
in comments.

So switch nofollow with another way to link out without passing link
benefit and damaging a sites SEO and you have a solution. My solution
is to use forms for author links (see comments on my site in the sig,
that site has no nofollow links and doesn't link out with text links
as the author comment links are forms).

David
-- 
Monetize your WordPress blog with Search Engine Optimized templates
including AdSense ads http://www.google-adsense-templates.co.uk/

>
>
>On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:06 PM, David Law
><wp-hackers at google-adsense-templates.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:46:03 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>> Or, alternatively, use the get_comment_author_link filter to remove
>>> the nofollow attribute. http://phpxref.ftwr.co.uk/wordpress/nav.html?wp-includes/comment-template.php.source.html#l138
>>>
>>> William P. Davis
>>> will.davis at gmail.com
>>> 207.660.5342
>>> http://twitter.com/williampd
>>> http://www.wpdavis.com
>>
>>
>> Not helpful if you don't want to link out to anyone who can find your
>> site and paste a URL into a comment form or use a script to
>> automatically spam your site for links. I only link to sites in a way
>> that passes SEO benefit when I choose to link to that site.
>>
>> Unfortunatly allowing dofollow links in your comments can result in
>> your site being added to dofollow lists which are shared amongst
>> comment spammers.
>>
>> I'd like to see core WordPress have the ability to both allow and
>> block author URLs etc... in multiple ways without harming a sites SEO.
>>
>> David
>> --
>> Monetize your WordPress blog with Search Engine Optimized templates
>> including AdSense ads http://www.google-adsense-templates.co.uk/
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:19 PM, David Law wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 18:18:03 +0000, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7 Nov 2010, at 17:34, scribu wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Peter Westwood <peter.westwood at ftwr.co.uk
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7 Nov 2010, at 00:41, AdSense Templates wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/10550
>>>>>>>> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/287704?replies=1
>>>>>>>> http://codex.wordpress.org/Talk:Template_Tags/comment_reply_link
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a massive SEO issue with WordPress, if you want to
>>>>>>>> understand
>>>>>>>> the problem and see some partial solutions see
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.google-adsense-templates.co.uk/wp-content/themes/talian-adsense-clickbank-seo-05/readme/08-nofollow-problems.txt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You haven't provided any evidence for your claims to support your
>>>>>>> request
>>>>>>> for changes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where can we see documentation which shows that PR is reduced due
>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>> nofollow on these links?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's mentioned in the ticket:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/pagerank-sculpting/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't sound so OMG important as the poster suggested as I
>>>>> expected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Here's an easy to follow example.
>>>>
>>>> I have a WordPress page set to show 50 comment threads with comment
>>>> threading turned on of course.
>>>>
>>>> Each full page of comments will have at least 50 Reply to Comments
>>>> links, that's a minimum 50 nofollow links on highly commented pages.
>>>>
>>>> Every link on a page shares the PR/link benefit that's flowing through
>>>> that page, doesn't matter if it's an internal link or an external
>>>> link, they all gain a fair share of the link benefit. If overall a
>>>> page has 100 links from it, each gains 1/100th of the link benefit
>>>> flowing through that page.
>>>>
>>>> This example page has another 50 links from it, combination of
>>>> internal and external links (category links, tag links, home page
>>>> links, blogroll etc...), so in total we have 100 links, 50 are
>>>> nofollow and 50 are not nofollow.
>>>>
>>>> Since nofollow deletes PR/link benefit equal to one link share rather
>>>> than protects it as this attribute was initially intended to do, this
>>>> page looses half it's link benefit that could go to other pages the
>>>> page links to for no gain.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't think loosing 50% of a pages link benefit for no gain
>>>> isn't an OMG issue, you don't understand the importance of link
>>>> benefit to SEO. It's the most important SEO factor that takes most
>>>> effort to achieve.
>>>>
>>>> Like I said before, I have a popular jokes site with almost 18,000
>>>> user comments, this is on a site with about 1,500 posts. If I allowed
>>>> 18,000+ nofollow links on a site I might as well dofollow the links
>>>> and allow link spammers free reign on the comments, at least that way
>>>> the link benefit actually benefits someone rather than deleting it!
>>>> That site is breaking through the 15,000 unique visitors a day mark
>>>> and it's home page is only PR3 (I waste no link benefit, it all works
>>>> on my sites).
>>>>
>>>> The Reply to Comment links is the extreme of this problem and fixing
>>>> it is a big move forward. The nofollow links of authors links is less
>>>> damaging, but it is damaging all the same and if it can be fixed in
>>>> WordPress it should be (again doesn't hurt my sites, I've solved the
>>>> problem, it's WordPress users who are loosing Google rankings).
>>>>
>>>> If 20% of your commenters add an author URL or link from the body of
>>>> comments and your blog has 500 comments, that's 100 nofollow links
>>>> that's deleting valuable link benefit.
>>>>
>>>> There's monetary value to dofollow links, depending on how you sell
>>>> links it can be $10 a link per month for a PR0 page on a site with a
>>>> decent home page PR. The wasted link benefit of those 100 nofollow
>>>> links could be $1,000 a month, if they are on pages with PR they are
>>>> worth more.
>>>>
>>>> Some WordPress sites will be deleting enough link benefit to run
>>>> successful online eccomerce stores!
>>>>
>>>> BTW This is one of the reasons why the so called SEO plugins aren't
>>>> SEO plugins, they have options to add more nofollow links!!!
>>>>
>>>> David
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>>>> Monetize your WordPress blog with Search Engine Optimized templates
>>>> including AdSense ads http://www.google-adsense-templates.co.uk/
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