[wp-hackers] Best SEO plugin?

William Davis will.davis at gmail.com
Mon Nov 8 00:46:03 UTC 2010


Or, alternatively, use the get_comment_author_link filter to remove  
the nofollow attribute. http://phpxref.ftwr.co.uk/wordpress/nav.html?wp-includes/comment-template.php.source.html#l138

William P. Davis
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On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:19 PM, David Law wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 18:18:03 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>
>> On 7 Nov 2010, at 17:34, scribu wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Peter Westwood <peter.westwood at ftwr.co.uk 
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7 Nov 2010, at 00:41, AdSense Templates wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/10550
>>>>> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/287704?replies=1
>>>>> http://codex.wordpress.org/Talk:Template_Tags/comment_reply_link
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a massive SEO issue with WordPress, if you want to  
>>>>> understand
>>>>> the problem and see some partial solutions see
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.google-adsense-templates.co.uk/wp-content/themes/talian-adsense-clickbank-seo-05/readme/08-nofollow-problems.txt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You haven't provided any evidence for your claims to support your  
>>>> request
>>>> for changes.
>>>>
>>>> Where can we see documentation which shows that PR is reduced due  
>>>> to the
>>>> nofollow on these links?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's mentioned in the ticket:
>>>
>>> http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/pagerank-sculpting/
>>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> It doesn't sound so OMG important as the poster suggested as I  
>> expected.
>>
>> Cheers
>
> Here's an easy to follow example.
>
> I have a WordPress page set to show 50 comment threads with comment
> threading turned on of course.
>
> Each full page of comments will have at least 50 Reply to Comments
> links, that's a minimum 50 nofollow links on highly commented pages.
>
> Every link on a page shares the PR/link benefit that's flowing through
> that page, doesn't matter if it's an internal link or an external
> link, they all gain a fair share of the link benefit. If overall a
> page has 100 links from it, each gains 1/100th of the link benefit
> flowing through that page.
>
> This example page has another 50 links from it, combination of
> internal and external links (category links, tag links, home page
> links, blogroll etc...), so in total we have 100 links, 50 are
> nofollow and 50 are not nofollow.
>
> Since nofollow deletes PR/link benefit equal to one link share rather
> than protects it as this attribute was initially intended to do, this
> page looses half it's link benefit that could go to other pages the
> page links to for no gain.
>
> If you don't think loosing 50% of a pages link benefit for no gain
> isn't an OMG issue, you don't understand the importance of link
> benefit to SEO. It's the most important SEO factor that takes most
> effort to achieve.
>
> Like I said before, I have a popular jokes site with almost 18,000
> user comments, this is on a site with about 1,500 posts. If I allowed
> 18,000+ nofollow links on a site I might as well dofollow the links
> and allow link spammers free reign on the comments, at least that way
> the link benefit actually benefits someone rather than deleting it!
> That site is breaking through the 15,000 unique visitors a day mark
> and it's home page is only PR3 (I waste no link benefit, it all works
> on my sites).
>
> The Reply to Comment links is the extreme of this problem and fixing
> it is a big move forward. The nofollow links of authors links is less
> damaging, but it is damaging all the same and if it can be fixed in
> WordPress it should be (again doesn't hurt my sites, I've solved the
> problem, it's WordPress users who are loosing Google rankings).
>
> If 20% of your commenters add an author URL or link from the body of
> comments and your blog has 500 comments, that's 100 nofollow links
> that's deleting valuable link benefit.
>
> There's monetary value to dofollow links, depending on how you sell
> links it can be $10 a link per month for a PR0 page on a site with a
> decent home page PR. The wasted link benefit of those 100 nofollow
> links could be $1,000 a month, if they are on pages with PR they are
> worth more.
>
> Some WordPress sites will be deleting enough link benefit to run
> successful online eccomerce stores!
>
> BTW This is one of the reasons why the so called SEO plugins aren't
> SEO plugins, they have options to add more nofollow links!!!
>
> David
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