[wp-hackers] Putting the P in WordPress

Thu Jul 8 15:56:23 UTC 2010

Having a WordPress Social IRC room would be fantastic.  A place where
people who LIKE WordPress could talk about it, but also talk other
stuff.  Have some sort of moderation, but not super strict - basically
like a WordPress themed bar.

Mitch

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:51 AM, John Bloch <jbloch at olympianetworks.com> wrote:
> Personally, I'd love some more social-oriented venues. Maybe an IRC channel where hlin won't warn us to stay on topic? #wordpress-social or something? #wordpress-after-hours? or a WP-Discussions email list? I like the having these conversations, but I would like them to be separate from the hackers list.
>
> On Jul 8, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Mitch Canter wrote:
>
>> What about a mailing list specifically for discussions like this.
>>
>> Unless there's a WP-discussions thread I don't know about, it might be
>> good and spark some good conversations.
>> Or we could use a WordPress blog with P2 *shrug*.
>>
>> Mitch
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:44 AM, John Bloch <jbloch at olympianetworks.com> wrote:
>>> Discussion is great and all, but somewhere around 150 emails ago, it became way inappropriate for this list. I'm sorry for any unnecessary noise I've caused here and would appreciate it if the discussions could be moved off-list so that inboxes aren't flooded with irrelevant emails.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> -John
>>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Mitch Canter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreed - this discussion got me out of lurking the list and actually
>>>> contributing.  It's good to have great philosophical debate as long as
>>>> all sides keep it civil, refrain from snide remarks, and can agree to
>>>> disagree.
>>>>
>>>> Mitch Canter
>>>> http://www.mitchcanter.com
>>>> http://www.studionashvegas.com
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Gavin Pearce <Gavin.Pearce at 3seven9.com> wrote:
>>>>> I'd just like to say....
>>>>>
>>>>> In spite of what everyone, including Matt, has said, I think this is the
>>>>> best discussion we've had on here for ages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Debates and points from both sides - with evidence and some big
>>>>> conclusions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shame one side is wrong mind ... but still  ;)  (I jest).
>>>>>
>>>>> G
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
>>>>> [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Peter
>>>>> Westwood
>>>>> Sent: 07 July 2010 18:27
>>>>> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Fwd: Re: Putting the P in WordPress
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7 Jul 2010, at 16:05, Mark E wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The obfuscation of the easter egg blatantly violates GPL v2. So all
>>>>> the
>>>>>> stuff you say about GPL boils down to this: "Do as I as say, not as I
>>>>>> do". And here I was thinking that you followed GPL to the letter, as
>>>>> you imply other people should do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In what way?
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe the specific wording from the GPL2 you are interpreting is:
>>>>>
>>>>> "The source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for
>>>>> making modifications to it. For an executable work, complete source code
>>>>> means all the source code for all modules it contains, plus any
>>>>> associated interface definition files, plus the scripts used to control
>>>>> compilation and installation of the executable. However, as a special
>>>>> exception, the source code distributed need not include anything that is
>>>>> normally distributed (in either source or binary form) with the major
>>>>> components (compiler, kernel, and so on) of the operating system on
>>>>> which the executable runs, unless that component itself accompanies the
>>>>> executable. "
>>>>>
>>>>> In my reading in no way does this preclude the distribution of
>>>>> obfuscated code - what it is trying to prevent is the distribution of
>>>>> compiled object files without the corresponding source code to allow
>>>>> modifications to be made.
>>>>>
>>>>> As JS and PHP are always distributed in source form as part of the
>>>>> WordPress download I don't see how we are violating the licence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you consider it a licence violation if we were to ship WordPress
>>>>> without the include .dev.js files so as to decrease the download size
>>>>> and make automatic upgrades use less memory?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> --
>>>>> Peter Westwood
>>>>> http://blog.ftwr.co.uk | http://westi.wordpress.com
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