[wp-hackers] Putting the P in WordPress
Gavin Pearce
Gavin.Pearce at 3seven9.com
Wed Jul 7 15:39:02 UTC 2010
> If you're unlucky they find another pursuit that's more fun and has
less politics.
Nice-to-have functions such as the one in this discussion should be put
to the community - *not* at the whim of a couple of core devs.
We are given freedoms under GPL - yes of course we are - that doesn't
mean we want to start hacking at core code and having custom WordPress
installs - you can't use that as an excuse for poor core code commits.
Maybe we should have a vote.
G
-----Original Message-----
From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
[mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Mullenweg
Sent: 07 July 2010 15:44
To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Putting the P in WordPress
On 7/7/2010 9:11 AM, Stephen Rider wrote:
> I laughed when Matt said we were approaching Godwin's Law. :-) Some
of the rhetoric is getting a bit overwrought, but for the most part I
think it's remained pretty civil.
We are -- someone is comparing the capitalization of the letter P with
removing the sacred freedoms every WordPress user is given by the GPL.
If you're someone who is frequently personally attacked, lied about,
having cartoons drawn about you, etc for trying to protect that freedom
it pushes it too far. There is a huge magnitude of difference.
The rest of your message is a bit long to respond to individually, but
in summary:
Core development is a meritocracy. People pay their dues by working on
*hard* issues that matter to end-users, like widgets, upgrades, speed
and performance, and then they're then trusted with increasing rights
and responsibilities.
The more attention paid to a trivial issue by a new contributor, hence
the more distraction from the core people on the things that matter,
that new contributor is spending their default community currency on
something that is generating no returns.
If you want to map the decline of this mailing list, to the point it
might as well be shut down, look at the number of words generated by
people who don't contribute to core over time, or over "bikeshed" issues
that don't really matter. ( http://bikeshed.com/ ) (And also the
atrocious email etiquette and quoting style that's taken over here.)
Eventually, the good people unsubscribe entirely, or go silent for
months/years at a time. Why? Because they didn't get involved with
WordPress because they love arguing on mailing lists. I'm involved
because I love making it easy for people to build beautiful dynamic
websites. I'm involved because I think the more people publishing, the
better place the world will be. I'm involved because I love figuring out
elegant code or architecture solutions to tricky problems or UI
challenges.
So you withdraw. This thread would have been much much shorter, and
probably better for everyone's perception, if I hadn't participated at
all.
If you're lucky, the people that withdraw from forums and mailing lists
just focus on code. If you're unlucky they find another pursuit that's
more fun and has less politics.
--
Matt Mullenweg
http://ma.tt | http://wordpress.org | http://automattic.com
_______________________________________________
wp-hackers mailing list
wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-hackers
More information about the wp-hackers
mailing list