[wp-hackers] Quest for Self Pingbacks

Wed Sep 2 13:29:31 UTC 2009

Ooops, sorry.
Well, I have exactly two records with meta_key = '_pingme' in my postsmeta
table.
They appear to be referring to posts that don't exist from 3 years ago
(based on post_id).

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:

> No, not meta_value.
>
> meta_key = '_pingme'
>
> -Otto
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Chris Kasten<handy.solo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > After pingbacks the meta key must get cleared then, huh?
> > SELECT * FROM `wp_postmeta` where meta_value like '%ping%' ORDER BY
> > `post_id` DESC
> >
> > Results in 0 rows found
> >
> > Curiouser and curiouser.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
> >
> >> No, the to_ping column only holds manual trackback values you inserted
> >> on a post.
> >>
> >> You should look for a meta_key on the post named "_pingme". That gets
> >> set for new posts, and the do_all_pings function processes those posts
> >> for links and then does the pingbacks for them.
> >>
> >> pinged + to_ping = trackbacks.
> >> _pingme = pingbacks.
> >>
> >> -Otto
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Chris Kasten<handy.solo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > My theme has that which then shows up like this in a "view source":
> >> > <link rel="pingback" href="
> >> http://www.solo-technology.com/blog/xmlrpc.php"
> >> > />
> >> >
> >> > But... wouldn't you think the DB entries should be there FIRST?
> >> >
> >> > I hate to keep kicking this same dead & tired horse, but since I never
> >> get
> >> > values in "pinged" / "to_ping" columns in the Posts table it ain't
> ever
> >> > going to try to ping, right?
> >> >
> >> > What would stop the self-pingbacks from getting added to those columns
> in
> >> > the DB? Seems like maybe that's my root cause.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Chris Kasten
> >> > Solo Technology
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In your theme, is this line in the header?
> >> >>
> >> >> <link rel="pingback" href="<?php bloginfo('pingback_url'); ?>" />
> >> >>
> >> >> Pingbacks need that to work.
> >> >>
> >> >> -Otto
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Chris Kasten<handy.solo at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> > The patch made no changes in my lack of ability to self-ping.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Chris Kasten <
> handy.solo at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I'll give it a shot and report back.
> >> >> >> Meanwhile... It alarms me that my self links never get collected
> and
> >> >> added
> >> >> >> to the to_ping / pinged columns in the Posts table. Or are they
> >> briefly
> >> >> >> there and removed when the pingback fails?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Peter Westwood <
> >> >> >> peter.westwood at ftwr.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Could you try on your test blog with the patch on this ticket
> >> applied.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/10588
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> This switches the IXR class over to use the WordPress HTTP api
> >> instead
> >> >> of
> >> >> >>> fsockopen for connections it should be more reliable.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Please leave feedback on your sucess/lack there of on the ticket.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> --
> >> >> >>> Peter Westwood
> >> >> >>> http://peter.westwood.name
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On 30 Aug 2009, at 03:17, Chris Kasten <handy.solo at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>  Future posts do indeed work (mentioned a couple stanzas below
> your
> >> >> reply
> >> >> >>>> ;-)
> >> >> >>>> )
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Dion Hulse (dd32) <
> >> >> wordpress at dd32.id.au
> >> >> >>>> >wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>  Is the cron system working?
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Try a future-publish post, See if that gets published (Thats
> based
> >> on
> >> >> >>>>> the
> >> >> >>>>> Cron system).
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:11:44 +1000, Chris Kasten <
> >> >> handy.solo at gmail.com>
> >> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> On a fresh locally install blog self pingbacks work just fine.
> I
> >> >> guess
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> this
> >> >> >>>>>> may be a Dreamhost related issue?What a bummer.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> I poked around through the access and error logs but didn't
> see
> >> any
> >> >> >>>>>> obvious
> >> >> >>>>>> errors.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Chris Kasten <
> >> handy.solo at gmail.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> I'm hosted on Dreamhost. As mentioned earlier, self pings were
> >> good
> >> >> >>>>>> until
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> the beginning of this year (which may coincide with a WP
> >> release? I
> >> >> >>>>>>> can't
> >> >> >>>>>>> recall now).
> >> >> >>>>>>> I also tried a pingback from one of my blogs to the other
> (but
> >> both
> >> >> on
> >> >> >>>>>>> Dreamhost and both in same domain). Same deal, no pingback
> and
> >> >> nothing
> >> >> >>>>>>> in
> >> >> >>>>>>> the ping fields in the Posts table.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> I just tested a future post and it worked. What else would
> you
> >> like
> >> >> me
> >> >> >>>>>>> to
> >> >> >>>>>>> try? I get the same results with my blog as I do with a test
> >> blog
> >> >> (no
> >> >> >>>>>>> plugins / default theme).
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> I guess one next step would be to get one going locally (as
> in
> >> not
> >> >> on
> >> >> >>>>>>> Dreamhost) and see how self pings go there. Anything else I
> >> should
> >> >> >>>>>>> look
> >> >> >>>>>>> at?
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> From your note, it sounds like I can assume that self pings
> >> >> _should_
> >> >> >>>>>>> still
> >> >> >>>>>>> work?
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Peter Westwood <
> >> >> >>>>>>> peter.westwood at ftwr.co.uk
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> It sounds like you are suffering from oases which prevent the
> >> self
> >> >> >>>>>>> pings
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> from working.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> This is normally due to hosting confug in relation to
> >> connections
> >> >> >>>>>>>> back
> >> >> >>>>>>>> to
> >> >> >>>>>>>> your server from your server.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> Does the built in cron system work for you? For example does
> >> >> future
> >> >> >>>>>>>> publishing posts work?
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> --
> >> >> >>>>>>>> Peter Westwood
> >> >> >>>>>>>> http://peter.westwood.name
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> On 29 Aug 2009, at 18:47, Chris Kasten <
> handy.solo at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> Yes thanks. I realize a lot of people don't like them.
>  That's
> >> why
> >> >> >>>>>>>> that
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>  No
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Pings plugin was invented! But I do like 'em and WP used to
> >> >> generate
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> them.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Like or dislike, I just wish to confirm that they (self
> pings)
> >> >> are
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> indeed
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> dropped by WP now. If so, A nudge on how to re-enable them
> >> with a
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> plugin
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> would be really groovy.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Chris Kasten
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Solo Technology
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Rics <
> >> ricardo.cezar at gmail.com>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Personally, I don't like self trackbacks... it's anoying.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  I prefer to have related posts and use trackback only from
> >> other
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> websites.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> ---
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Rics
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.pensarics.com
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.meadiciona.com/rics
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Maringá, PR - Brasil
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> 2009/8/29 scribu <scribu at gmail.com>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> That's ironic, since there's a plugin that does the
> opposite.
> >> >> It's
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>  called
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> No
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Self Pings.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://scribu.net
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> >> >> >>>>> --
> >> >> >>>>> --
> >> >> >>>>> Dion Hulse
> >> >> >>>>> e: contact at dd32.id.au
> >> >> >>>>> w: http://dd32.id.au/
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