[wp-hackers] Quest for Self Pingbacks

Tue Sep 1 22:23:07 UTC 2009

After pingbacks the meta key must get cleared then, huh?
SELECT * FROM `wp_postmeta` where meta_value like '%ping%' ORDER BY
`post_id` DESC

Results in 0 rows found

Curiouser and curiouser.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:

> No, the to_ping column only holds manual trackback values you inserted
> on a post.
>
> You should look for a meta_key on the post named "_pingme". That gets
> set for new posts, and the do_all_pings function processes those posts
> for links and then does the pingbacks for them.
>
> pinged + to_ping = trackbacks.
> _pingme = pingbacks.
>
> -Otto
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Chris Kasten<handy.solo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > My theme has that which then shows up like this in a "view source":
> > <link rel="pingback" href="
> http://www.solo-technology.com/blog/xmlrpc.php"
> > />
> >
> > But... wouldn't you think the DB entries should be there FIRST?
> >
> > I hate to keep kicking this same dead & tired horse, but since I never
> get
> > values in "pinged" / "to_ping" columns in the Posts table it ain't ever
> > going to try to ping, right?
> >
> > What would stop the self-pingbacks from getting added to those columns in
> > the DB? Seems like maybe that's my root cause.
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris Kasten
> > Solo Technology
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In your theme, is this line in the header?
> >>
> >> <link rel="pingback" href="<?php bloginfo('pingback_url'); ?>" />
> >>
> >> Pingbacks need that to work.
> >>
> >> -Otto
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Chris Kasten<handy.solo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > The patch made no changes in my lack of ability to self-ping.
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Chris Kasten <handy.solo at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'll give it a shot and report back.
> >> >> Meanwhile... It alarms me that my self links never get collected and
> >> added
> >> >> to the to_ping / pinged columns in the Posts table. Or are they
> briefly
> >> >> there and removed when the pingback fails?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Peter Westwood <
> >> >> peter.westwood at ftwr.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Could you try on your test blog with the patch on this ticket
> applied.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/10588
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This switches the IXR class over to use the WordPress HTTP api
> instead
> >> of
> >> >>> fsockopen for connections it should be more reliable.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Please leave feedback on your sucess/lack there of on the ticket.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Peter Westwood
> >> >>> http://peter.westwood.name
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 30 Aug 2009, at 03:17, Chris Kasten <handy.solo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>  Future posts do indeed work (mentioned a couple stanzas below your
> >> reply
> >> >>>> ;-)
> >> >>>> )
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Dion Hulse (dd32) <
> >> wordpress at dd32.id.au
> >> >>>> >wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>  Is the cron system working?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Try a future-publish post, See if that gets published (Thats based
> on
> >> >>>>> the
> >> >>>>> Cron system).
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:11:44 +1000, Chris Kasten <
> >> handy.solo at gmail.com>
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On a fresh locally install blog self pingbacks work just fine. I
> >> guess
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> this
> >> >>>>>> may be a Dreamhost related issue?What a bummer.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I poked around through the access and error logs but didn't see
> any
> >> >>>>>> obvious
> >> >>>>>> errors.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Chris Kasten <
> handy.solo at gmail.com
> >> >
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I'm hosted on Dreamhost. As mentioned earlier, self pings were
> good
> >> >>>>>> until
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> the beginning of this year (which may coincide with a WP
> release? I
> >> >>>>>>> can't
> >> >>>>>>> recall now).
> >> >>>>>>> I also tried a pingback from one of my blogs to the other (but
> both
> >> on
> >> >>>>>>> Dreamhost and both in same domain). Same deal, no pingback and
> >> nothing
> >> >>>>>>> in
> >> >>>>>>> the ping fields in the Posts table.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> I just tested a future post and it worked. What else would you
> like
> >> me
> >> >>>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>> try? I get the same results with my blog as I do with a test
> blog
> >> (no
> >> >>>>>>> plugins / default theme).
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> I guess one next step would be to get one going locally (as in
> not
> >> on
> >> >>>>>>> Dreamhost) and see how self pings go there. Anything else I
> should
> >> >>>>>>> look
> >> >>>>>>> at?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> From your note, it sounds like I can assume that self pings
> >> _should_
> >> >>>>>>> still
> >> >>>>>>> work?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Peter Westwood <
> >> >>>>>>> peter.westwood at ftwr.co.uk
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> It sounds like you are suffering from oases which prevent the
> self
> >> >>>>>>> pings
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> from working.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> This is normally due to hosting confug in relation to
> connections
> >> >>>>>>>> back
> >> >>>>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>>> your server from your server.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Does the built in cron system work for you? For example does
> >> future
> >> >>>>>>>> publishing posts work?
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>>> Peter Westwood
> >> >>>>>>>> http://peter.westwood.name
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> On 29 Aug 2009, at 18:47, Chris Kasten <handy.solo at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Yes thanks. I realize a lot of people don't like them.  That's
> why
> >> >>>>>>>> that
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>  No
> >> >>>>>>>>> Pings plugin was invented! But I do like 'em and WP used to
> >> generate
> >> >>>>>>>>> them.
> >> >>>>>>>>> Like or dislike, I just wish to confirm that they (self pings)
> >> are
> >> >>>>>>>>> indeed
> >> >>>>>>>>> dropped by WP now. If so, A nudge on how to re-enable them
> with a
> >> >>>>>>>>> plugin
> >> >>>>>>>>> would be really groovy.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Chris Kasten
> >> >>>>>>>>> Solo Technology
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Rics <
> ricardo.cezar at gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Personally, I don't like self trackbacks... it's anoying.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>  I prefer to have related posts and use trackback only from
> other
> >> >>>>>>>>>> websites.
> >> >>>>>>>>>> ---
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Rics
> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.pensarics.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.meadiciona.com/rics
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Maringá, PR - Brasil
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 2009/8/29 scribu <scribu at gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> That's ironic, since there's a plugin that does the opposite.
> >> It's
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>  called
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> No
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Self Pings.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://scribu.net
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