[wp-hackers] Inclusion of TimThumb -- anyone game?

[Paul]

Mike,

No harm taken on my end. Always open for criticism.

P-

On Mar 5, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:

> Oh, hopefully you didn't get me wrong, it's a good plugin I plan to  
> use if and when it fits my use-cases. Many of my plugins meet  
> specific use-cases but not general use-cases; we build what we need  
> when we need it!  OTOH, glad to see Media Tags is moving in the  
> direction of using taxonomy; that would be quite helpful.  BTW, it  
> would also be nice if you could constrain taxonomy in general or my  
> mime class (i.e. 'image') or mime type (i.e. 'image/jpeg').
>
> My only comments were to say I didn't think the functionality in the  
> Media Tags plugin is ready for inclusion in core as is, and I'd love  
> to see a "standard" way baked into core for plugins and themes to  
> deal with images.
>
> -Mike Schinkel
> http://mikeschinkel.com/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul" <paul at codehooligans.com>
> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 3:31:11 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Inclusion of TimThumb -- anyone game?
>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts on the Media Tags plugin. It was written and
> released just for tagging not really for association of the 'size' of
> an image. That responsibility is still on the shoulders of the of the
> uploading user. As for the comment about storing the tags in the post-
> meta I totally agree. Again this was written to quickly and in the
> mind that a given post would have associated images. The Media Tags
> plugin provided the need to filter through the various posts' images
> without resorting to use kludges in the image name or title. I've been
> working on the next release of the plugin that does the taxonomy table
> to store the tags. This change will facilitate the search for tagged
> image across all posts not just the current loop item.
>
> Thanks again.
> Paul
>
>
> On Mar 5, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
>
>> "Paul" <paul at codehooligans.com> wrote:
>>> I have a better solution. I wrote a Media Tags plugin back
>>> Dec 2008 so I can stop asking the client to name the image
>>> with a certain pattern.
>>
>> FWIW, I was excited about the Media Tags plugin plugin for my
>> current project but found that it didn't work well for the client's
>> workflow because it is too free-form and because of how it stored
>> its data in the database. I ended up writing a custom plugin for
>> "video channels."
>>
>> While I still think Media Tags is conceptually a good plugin and
>> really useful as is, it doesn't address use cases where there is a
>> need for the admin to explicitly specify a selection of specific
>> sizes with optionally named specific roles.  It also doesn't
>> (currently) store rich enough data in the databasse to associate the
>> image type of "sidebar" with the fact that the sidebar image must
>> be, for example, 120x180. Even more, it stores its media tags solely
>> in postmeta instead of in the taxonomy tables where it could better
>> leveraged by additional types of SQL queries.
>>
>> Actually, I'd love to see media tags functionality rolled into the
>> core to address the free-form tagging use-case, but would want to
>> see it rearchitected to use taxonomny before that was done.  For the
>> use case that requires structured image functionality, see my
>> previous email.
>>
>> FWIW, I've done a lot of the code for this in my past several
>> projects and, if we can agree on what it should look like I can
>> either contribute the code to the core or provide a plugin that
>> meets the design agreed to by the community, or collaborate with
>> others to do the same.
>>
>> -Mike Schinkel
>> http://mikeschinkel.com/
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