[wp-hackers] Re: Spam Karma goes GPL

jared at pacific22.com jared at pacific22.com
Tue Jul 15 19:04:29 GMT 2008

Yeah, I've run into that false positive situation as well where SK
will block it but the positive points from the Akismet SK plugin will
push it over and let it through.

I ended up mofifying the Akismet SK plugin so that a spam indication
from Akismet still gives negative karma points, but an "OK" from
Akismet does not add any karma points. Works pretty well that way.

On 7/15/08, Xavier Borderie <xavier at borderie.net> wrote:
> On Jul 14, 2008, at 12:44 PM, Jonathan Dingman wrote:
>> Spam Karma is a great plugin, but it's outdated and there are much
>> better plugins available to do the same job.
>> (...)
>> I don't really see a need for Spam Karma anymore.
> Well, I don't know, there might some people out there who'd rather not
> have all their comments be handled by a third-party company through a
> closed-source service. Keeping one's comment on one's server.
> No offense to Matt & the whole Akismet devteam, it's a great product
> (I myself use it as a plugin to SpamKarma), but Jonathan, I'm sure you
> can understand that there are cases when it does'nt fit the bill.
> Furthermore, SK is built so that there is no chance to get false
> positives, whereas Akismet might get a few from times to times (hence
> the need to regularly check the spam folder of one's Akismet
> installation).
> In the end, you combine BadBehavior with Akismet, and I combine SK
> with AK. To each his own, and I for one would be sad to see SK
> disappear.
> And know that no service/plugin is perfect: I just got an obvious spam
> on my installation (author is "milfdude duuuude"),  see the
> spam-comment's final karma points:
> Karma : 6.07 with...
> 0.5: Valid Javascript payload (can be fake).
> 0: Encrypted payload valid: IP matching.
> -1.43: Entry posted 1 year, 9 months ago. 0 comments in the past 15
> days. Current Karma: 0.
> 7: Akismet says it's ok
> :)
> So, you'll always have to look at your spam folder, either to retrieve
> possible false positives, or mark missed spam. No solution is perfect
> yet, sadly.
> --
> Xavier Borderie
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