[wp-hackers] Re: Blogroll, Bookmarks, Links?

Matt speedboxer at gmail.com
Tue Jun 26 00:21:03 GMT 2007

Well said! Not to mention that if the user sees that they're called
Bookmarks, they might relate them to Bookmarks in their Browser and might
think that when they add a new "Bookmark" in WP, it'll be added to their
browser and the visitor's browser. Or, they might think that when they add a
Bookmark in their Browser, that it'll be added to WP too. Which would
defiantly create some confusion and stupid support requests.

On 6/25/07, Marci O'Daffer <marci at odaffer.net> wrote:
> I did a little research, because all this talk of bookmarks being a better
> term than links just hasn't seemed logical to me, but I wasn't sure why.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookmark_%28computers%29
> Tells me that computer bookmarks (as opposed to paper bookmarks :)) are
> URLs
> stored for easy access later (in a browser or online document), and social
> bookmarks are the same thing, but public. This does not begin to describe
> what we can do with the links/bookmarks/blogroll in WP.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperlink
> Explains hyperlinks, or links for short, and their ability to help the
> user
> navigate the web. This precisely defines the core of what we have in WP:
> links around the web, with all their useful attributes.
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html
> Tells me that "links" is the common name for HTML anchors, and that they
> are
> indeed links, no matter how many attributes they may have (title, rel,
> img,
> XFN, etc).  Links are capable of much more than hrefs, but calling them
> bookmarks seems insufficient, since bookmarks (at least the ones I've seen
> so far) only do a handful of the things links can do.
> Bookmarks are URLs stored in your browser or on a social bookmarking site.
> Links are dynamic entities that take you from one web page to another, or
> help you navigate around a page or a site.
> Everyone can use and display their links in whatever way they want (as
> bookmarks, social or private, just plain hrefs, XFN, images) But they are
> hyperlinks at their very core, and IMHO renaming them bookmarks will lead
> to
> more confusion, not less.
> The term links may be as old as the web, but that is an advantage. Seems
> to
> me that a platform as universal as WP should use terminology as universal
> as
> "links".
> Calling them Links affords an opportunity for newbies to LEARN all that
> links are capable of (when they click the "Links" tab and discover all
> these
> extra settings they didn't expect), and then be able to transfer that
> knowledge to other situations.
> If we call them Links on the admin tab, I think MOST users, even the total
> newbies, will KNOW intuitively what they are for, because everyone knows
> what a link is. There will be fewer support requests, not more.
> Bottom line: I'm not seeing Bookmarks as the correct term for what we have
> in WP. That they aren't "just plain hrefs" I definitely agree -- but
> denying
> they are "links" denies all that links have evolved into, and elevates
> bookmarks to a status they haven't really earned. I think it also creates
> unnecessary end-user confusion, and more frustration for newbies trying to
> learn WP.
> That's my $.02. I will now go sit in the bikeshed.
> Marci :)
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