[wp-hackers] Lack of code savvy volunteers vs wp-hackers

Computer Guru computerguru at neosmart.net
Sat Nov 25 17:52:27 GMT 2006

That was exactly what I was thinking and tried to say earlier.
Basically, Automattic picks mods and gives them access to specify a special
"level" tag (different from currently existing tag system). "Level Tags"
above a certain level appear in a virtual-category in bbPress, which doesn't
have all the fluff in the mix. It's different, it's not following the
traditional support model, but then again, you do what you have to do to get
things working, right?

Computer Guru
NeoSmart Technologies

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com [mailto:wp-hackers-
> bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Michael B
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:06 PM
> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Lack of code savvy volunteers vs wp-hackers
> I'm not implying that it's "someone else's job" to answer the tough
> questions, I simply suggested that if more of the discussion about
> WordPress
> functions, etc was held in the forums, perhaps more people would have
> access
> to the info and possibly more answers would be given to the tougher
> questions.  Period.
> After sleeping on it, I wonder if there was a forum that was locked,
> that
> only mods could move threads to, thus giving "hackers" a place to go
> and
> answer tough questions could be a solution (if that's even doable with
> bbPress).  The other suggestion of posting to the hackers list threads
> marked with a special tag is another (though, that could become a
> problem,
> as just anyone can tag threads, so it would almost have to be a
> "secret"
> tag).   Heck, I'd even be willing to manually post links to threads to
> the
> list if there was an embrace of the idea.  Almost like a digest.
> Ultimately, I do respect the work the hackers put forth, and know that
> I
> don't undervalue the discussions.  This was simply motivated by a
> desire to
> consolidate the vast information and knowledge and attempt to stave off
> wp-hackers from becoming the "real" support area.  Ultimately, it's
> just one
> opinion.
> Michael
> On 11/25/06, Computer Guru < computerguru at neosmart.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Sure. Scroll down to the bold "Interesting" on this page.
> > > http://www.paulgraham.com/gh.html
> > > Call it elitism if you want, but there's more that goes on behind
> the
> > > scenes than a simple "I'm better than answering stupid questions."
> > > (P.S., that essay is a great one to read the whole way through as
> > > well, it might shed a new view on some of the things that I have
> said
> > > and will say).
> >
> > Wow. Just wow.
> > I never read that before, but I just read the entire article over
> twice.
> > He *knows* exactly what it's like...
> > Besides the constant ripping on Microsoft (you can program python in
> > Windows even better than you can on linux - one word: VS2k5.. just
> > awesome!), everything he said is true. When I first learned I could
> do what
> > I do for fun and make money, it was like a miracle come true.
> >
> > Back to the point at hand:
> > Like I said before: it doesn't make a difference what you call it,
> the
> > fact is, it's there. Present a challenge, remove the fluff, and
> you'll see
> > an immediate change in the number of "experts" (as you call them)
> there in
> > the forums.
> >
> > BTW - just want to point out it doesn't really help when you make it
> seem
> > that it's "our" <job> to provide the support in the forums. For me,
> that's
> > why I stopped giving help on the online pc support forums. Here, the
> > recognition comes from within the community and stuff. "We"
> contribute
> > because we enjoy it. WordPress may be a community-powered blogging
> platform,
> > and without the community WP may not exist, but the fact remains, you
> just
> > have to rely on good-willed people willing to put up with the forum
> fluff.
> > I'm the first to admit that *they* are the real heroes who are
> willing to
> > help and put up with repetitive posts. I used to be like that, but
> everyone
> > has a limit and an expiration date, I'm afraid my ticker just ran
> out. Props
> > to those that do help - but you/shouldn't necessarily
> hate/blame/accuse
> > those that don't participate in the forums. Everyone has a reason,
> we're not
> > paid to do it (not that it would make a difference really), and
> that's the
> > way the world works.
> >
> > Computer Guru
> > NeoSmart Technologies
> > http://neosmart.net/blog/
> >
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