[wp-hackers] Lack of code savvy volunteers vs wp-hackers

Roy Schestowitz r at schestowitz.com
Sat Nov 25 07:01:30 GMT 2006

___/ On Sat 25 Nov 2006 06:10:14 GMT, [ Computer Guru ] wrote : \___

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com [mailto:wp-hackers-
>> bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Michael B
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 3:13 AM
>> To: wp-forums at lists.automattic.com
>> Cc: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
>> Subject: [wp-hackers] Lack of code savvy volunteers vs wp-hackers
>> I'm cross posting this to both the forums and the hackers list, and
>> perhaps
>> the copious amounts of sun from fishing all day, or perhaps it's the
>> many
>> blog posts I've read lately about the lack of focused participation in
>> the
>> forums/codex, but it seems after my most recent reply in the hackers
>> list,
>> that if less time was spent by the more talented coders who know the
>> code on
>> the hackers list, and more in the forums, either via an "advanced"
>> forum, or
>> something of the sort, many birds would be killed with fewer stones...
>> I see more and more discussions and questions posed on the hackers list
>> that
>> really could be relevant to the forums, and would be more widely read
>> there.  Likewise, if those that frequent the hackers list spent just a
>> *few
>> more minutes* there, some of the more technical questions that go
>> unanswered
>> would get some love.  I wholly understand the desire for less "noise",
>> and
>> the like minded camaraderie that is shared on the hackers list, but in
>> the
>> spirit of growing the community, as well as embracing new users, be it
>> some
>> times skilled coders unfamiliar with the nuances of WP, it could
>> benefit the
>> greater discussion.
>> I'm not suggesting the wp-hackers list doesn't have it's place, but am
>> suggesting that perhaps some of the discussion isn't that far above the
>> general audience that it can't be shared with the masses.
>> I'd hate for wp-hackers to some day evolve into into something like
>> css-discuss, and the only real source for meaty WP support, with the
>> forums
>> relegated to the complete newbie and sploggers.
>> Please don't flame me too hard, as I do have a bit of a sunburn, as
>> well as
>> am still stinging from being called a "maladjusted geek"...
>> Michael
> Well, for me I confess that's why I'm here. I joined WP-Hackers after
> stopping providing support in the forums at Neowin and ProNetworks for
> general PC help. After 2 years and around 20-thousand (repetitive &
> unchallenging) posts for me, I wanted out. I found wp-hackers where we could
> discuss actually mind-boggling questions once in a while and laugh at the
> "how do I hack hotmail" emails without wasting my time and effort on
> something I have no control over.
> Maybe you're right - but then again, if everyone in the NNTP newsgroups went
> out and joined the general help community on online computer support forums
> teh internets would be a better place.

Interesting post. I come from a similar 'background', having posted  
over 20,000 messages to UseNet in the past 2 years. I also tried the  
WordPress support forums, but found that people there are impatient  
and sometimes rude (at times even your 'colleagues'). In any event,  
wp-hackers is one of the only mailing lists which I find very  
professional. It encourages participation. I guess there's a divide  
between those who support software (sometimes supporting a commercial  
product without being paid) and discussing directions in development.

Best wishes,


Roy S. Schestowitz, Ph.D. Candidate in Medical Biophysics
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