[wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on established WP install
Vogel, Andrew (vogelap)
VOGELAP at UCMAIL.UC.EDU
Wed Aug 23 20:27:06 GMT 2006
> That is really odd. You shouldn't have to restore your
> database. Simply changing the permalink_structure back to
> "/index.php/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/" in
> /wp-admin/options.php should fix that.
>
You're telling me it's odd! :)
> Are you checking to
> make sure that once you do an update on the permalinks that
> your site isn't loading off of cache (ie. Checking to make
> sure the post permalink is actually changed)? It almost has
> to be something similar to that considering the following:
>
> -You are getting the wordpress 404 meaning mod_rewrite is
> working like it should.
>
> -Your .htaccess file is working properly since I loaded it on
> my own server with a clean install of wp2.0.4 and it worked fine.
>
By 'checking', do you mean visiting
http://www.drewvogel.com/wp-admin/options.php ? If so, no, I haven't
been doing that. But I'll try it this time!
Here's what I did...
* Went to http://www.drewvogel.com/wp-admin/options.php
* The permalink_structure had
"/index.php/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/" (no quotes). I changed
it to "/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/" (no quotes).
I clicked "Update Settings" at the bottom of the options.php page to
save my change.
I tried visiting my site BEFORE I went to Options->Permalinks and got a
NON-WP 404.
* I went to Options->Permalinks and clicked "Update Permalink
Structure".
* Went to http://www.drewvogel.com/wp-admin/options.php and verified
that permalinks_structure was "/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/" (it
was).
* Visited the site and clicked an article
("http://www.drewvogel.com/2006/08/18/dinner-230-friday-august-18-2006/"
), and got a NON-WP 404.
Rolling back!
> Verify that your wordpress section of .htaccess is as follows:
>
> # BEGIN WordPress
> <IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
> RewriteEngine On
> RewriteBase /
> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
> RewriteRule . /index.php [L]
> </IfModule>
>
> # END WordPress
>
> That will work with or without the /index.php/ (since the
> index.php is forcing the load of the file index.php and the
> query vars won't start until after that)
>
-andrew vogel
Manager of Professional Programs
University of Cincinnati
College of Pharmacy
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jamie Holly
> http://www.intoxination.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of
> Vogel, Andrew
> (vogelap)
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:49 PM
> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> established WP install
>
> AH! I was opening it in an editor. I opened the file in a
> browser and found the boxes and will try what you suggested.
>
> * The category_base was empty, so I left it alone.
>
> * The permalink_structure had
> "/index.php/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/" (no quotes).
> I changed it to "/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/" (no quotes).
>
> I clicked "Update Settings" at the bottom of the options.php
> page to save my change.
>
> I tried visiting my site BEFORE I went to Options->Permalinks
> and got a
> WP-404 (instead of the non-WP 404 I'd been getting -- that's
> sorta progress, I guess).
>
> I went to Options->Permalinks and did NOT click "Update
> Permalink Structure" -- I just visited the page. I visited my
> site again after that and got a WP-404 (instead of the non-WP
> 404 I'd been getting).
>
> I went back to Options->Permalink and clicked "Update
> Permalink Structure" and visited my site. I got a WP-404
> (instead of the non-WP
> 404 I'd been getting).
>
> After those errors, and waiting for the next step, I still
> had to EMPTY my WP database and RESTORE it from backup;
> changing the permalink back to
> "/index.php/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/" (no quotes)
> didn't work.
>
> -drew
> www.drewvogel.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of
> Jamie Holly
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:55 PM
> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> established WP install
>
> I just did a fresh install of WP2.0.4 and they are both listed there.
> With the fresh install, both are empty, but the options are
> there. Are you sure your navigating to
> http://yourdomain.com/wp-admin/options.php ?
> You need to load the page in a browser and not an editor. If
> you are going to that as a URL and they aren't listed then
> you have a broken installation of Wordpress.
>
> Jamie Holly
> http://www.intoxination.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of
> Vogel, Andrew
> (vogelap)
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:42 PM
> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> established WP install
>
> I downloaded and extracted WP2.04 from WordPress.ORG on my
> test machine and there is no mention of either
> "category_base" or "permalink_structure" in the options.php
> file located in /wp-admin/. I searched options.php for
> "category" and "permalink" as well, again with no matches.
>
> Perhaps it's a different file you're thinking of?
>
> -andrew vogel
> Manager of Professional Programs
> University of Cincinnati
> College of Pharmacy
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Jamie
> > Holly
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:33 PM
> > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> established
> > WP install
> >
> > They should be there. They are base options for Wordpress that
> > actually stores the permalink structure. These are the same values
> > that are shown on your permalinks page in the Category Base
> and Custom
>
> > Structure fields accordingly. Even if you select one of the
> > pre-defined structures in the Wordpress options, it will
> still appear
> > in the Custom Structure field after you click update, as it then
> > updates that option in the database.
> >
> > Jamie Holly
> > http://www.intoxination.net
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf
> Of Vogel,
> > Andrew
> > (vogelap)
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:14 PM
> > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> established
> > WP install
> >
> > I went to /wp-admin/options.php, but searching for
> "category_base" and
>
> > "permalink_structure" both came up with no matches... I've
> got several
>
> > other files in /wp-admin/ that are options-*.php -- like
> discussion,
> > general, head, misc, permalink, reading, and writing --
> could it be in
>
> > one of those?
> >
> > -andrew vogel
> > Manager of Professional Programs
> > University of Cincinnati
> > College of Pharmacy
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On
> Behalf Of Jamie
> > > Holly
> > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:47 PM
> > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > established
> > > WP install
> > >
> > > Last option I can think of. Go to /wp-admin/options.php.
> > Look for the
> > > following:
> > >
> > > category_base (delete anything in this box)
> > >
> > > permalink_structure Paste the following into that box:
> > >
> > > /%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/
> > >
> > > After that go to your options->permalinks page. You don't need to
> > > click the update button, as it will do it automatically for you.
> > >
> > > This will set you back to the standard Date and name based
> > permalinks.
> > > See if that is causing problems for you.
> > >
> > > I tried your .htaccess in one of my virtual hosts and it
> > worked fine.
> > > Of course you could have some plugin messing with things so
> > you might
> > > want to try and disable all of those and re-enable them
> one by one
> > > trying things out.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jamie Holly
> > > http://www.intoxination.net
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf
> > Of Vogel,
> > > Andrew
> > > (vogelap)
> > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:29 PM
> > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > established
> > > WP install
> > >
> > > I believe the problem existed prior to the inclusion of the
> > WPGallery
> > > stuff (even under previous versions of Fedora Core and
> > WordPress, I've
> > > always had "Almost Pretty" permalinks), but I will remove
> > it and try
> > > again just to be sure...
> > >
> > > ... I removed it and got the 404 again. I don't believe it's the
> > > WPGallery stuff in .htaccess.
> > >
> > > -andrew vogel
> > > Manager of Professional Programs
> > > University of Cincinnati
> > > College of Pharmacy
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On
> > Behalf Of Jamie
> > > > Holly
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:22 PM
> > > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > > established
> > > > WP install
> > > >
> > > > Whenever you go to the permalinks page it does a
> > > flush_rewrite rules,
> > > > which basically rewrites the #begin Wordpress section in
> > > .htaccess to
> > > > what you have Wordpress permalinks set at. I noticed you
> > were using
> > > > other rewrites for gallery. Just a quick question - have
> > you tired
> > > > removing that section and seeing if that corrects it? I
> > am not that
> > > > great on rewrite rules so I could be overlooking something
> > > in it that
> > > > could be causing the problem.
> > > >
> > > > Jamie Holly
> > > > http://www.intoxination.net
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Vogel,
> > > > Andrew
> > > > (vogelap)
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:07 PM
> > > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > > established
> > > > WP install
> > > >
> > > > Hrm. That didn't work. Extremely perplexing and more than
> > a little
> > > > frustrating!
> > > >
> > > > Here's what I tried:
> > > >
> > > > * backup WP database
> > > > * cd /var/www/html/
> > > > * mv .htaccess hta.org
> > > > * touch .htaccess
> > > > * chown .htaccess to webserver
> > > > * chmod 664 .htaccess
> > > > * pico /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf:
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > DocumentRoot "/var/www/html"
> > > > # First, we configure the "default" to be a very
> > restrictive set of
> > > > features.
> > > > #
> > > > <Directory />
> > > > Options FollowSymLinks
> > > > AllowOverride None
> > > > </Directory>
> > > >
> > > > # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to.
> > > > <Directory "/var/www/html">
> > > > Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes ExecCGI
> > > > AllowOverride None <------ this is the line to be changed
> > > > AcceptPathInfo On
> > > > Order allow,deny
> > > > Allow from all
> > > > </Directory>
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > ...to...
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > DocumentRoot "/var/www/html"
> > > > # First, we configure the "default" to be a very
> > restrictive set of
> > > > features.
> > > > #
> > > > <Directory />
> > > > Options FollowSymLinks
> > > > AllowOverride None
> > > > </Directory>
> > > >
> > > > # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to.
> > > > <Directory "/var/www/html">
> > > > Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes ExecCGI
> > > > AllowOverride All <------ this is what I changed the line to
> > > > AcceptPathInfo On
> > > > Order allow,deny
> > > > Allow from all
> > > > </Directory>
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > * service httpd restart
> > > > * pico /var/www/html/.htaccess -- verified that it had been
> > > written to
> > > > (it had)
> > > > * opened a webbrowser and pointed it to my page,
> > verifying that the
> > > > URL link of an article changed from
> > > > "http://www.drewvogel.com/index.php/2006/08/18/system-strangen
> > > ess/" to "http://www.drewvogel.com/2006/08/18/system->
> > > strangeness/" (it had).
> > > > * I clicked the link and -- KABOOM! -- non-WP 404.
> > > > * I tried to roll-back -- 'mv hta.org .htaccess', re-add
> > > "/index.php"
> > > > to the permalink line, and restart the server, but it
> > > remained broken.
> > > > Once again, simply VISITING
> > > > Options->Permalink is enough to 'break' it.
> > > >
> > > > What does WP write when Options->Permalink is displayed? Is
> > > there some
> > > > way to compare before and after database entries to see
> > > what's getting
> > > > changed? I had to empty and restore my WP database to
> get it back
> > > > working.
> > > >
> > > > -andrew vogel
> > > > Manager of Professional Programs
> > > > University of Cincinnati
> > > > College of Pharmacy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Jamie
> > > > > Holly
> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:05 PM
> > > > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > > > established
> > > > > WP install
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > AllowOverride All
> > > > >
> > > > > That will fix it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jamie Holly
> > > > > http://www.intoxination.net
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Handy
> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:04 PM
> > > > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > > > established
> > > > > WP install
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe so, yes. Unfortunately, not at a place where
> > > > it's easy to
> > > > > pop onto my server and check.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/21/06, Vogel, Andrew (vogelap)
> > <VOGELAP at ucmail.uc.edu> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You may not be "Captain Obvious"...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <Directory />
> > > > > > Options FollowSymLinks
> > > > > > AllowOverride None
> > > > > > </Directory>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What SHOULD it be? "All"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -andrew vogel
> > > > > > Manager of Professional Programs University of Cincinnati
> > > > > > College of Pharmacy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On
> > > > > Behalf Of Handy
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:38 AM
> > > > > > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > > > > established
> > > > > > > WP install
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/21/06, Vogel, Andrew (vogelap)
> > > > <VOGELAP at ucmail.uc.edu> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2. I've got my Permalinks set to Custom ("Almost
> > > Pretty") and
> > > > > > > >
> "/index.php/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/". The goal
> > > > > > > is to get
> > > > > > > > rid of the "/index.php" from my permalinks to make them
> > > > > > > "Pretty". As
> > > > > > > > long as I do not visit Options->Permalinks, my site
> > > > > > > functions as expected.
> > > > > > > > However, if I VISIT Options->Permalinks, my site's
> > > > > permalinks stop
> > > > > > > > functioning unless I set them to Default (I don't
> > even have
> > > > > > > to click
> > > > > > > > "Update Permalinks Settings"; simply visiting the
> > > > > > > Options->Permalinks
> > > > > > > > page breaks permalinks), which breaks internal
> links in my
> > > > > > > site. This
> > > > > > > > is 100% reproducible. The .htaccess file is 664 and
> > > > > > > writable by the server.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > </snip>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm willing to be all wet here with the "Captain Obvious"
> > > > > > > post... but FC5 has AllowOverrides off by default in
> > > the apache
> > > > > > > configs. Have you specifically re-enabled it?
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