[wp-forums] FYI

Chris Olbekson chris at c3mdigital.com
Thu Apr 18 02:36:59 UTC 2013


I believe Glenn is referencing this reply from Josh

"Hi oskarmothander,
Would you please first go back and adjust your rating? The plugin does work. You must first go to the Ultimate Tinymce admin settings page to configure your options and buttons.

I will be happy to help you with the styles, after you adjust your rating... and the title of your review.

Thank you very much!"

On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Mar Ventus <marventus.wp at gmail.com> wrote:

> Glenn, I don't really know what you are referring to (for real). If you
> mean this review:
> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/malicious-files?replies=7#post-
> I can't seem to find any examples of what you are talking about. AFAIK,
> Josh never withheld helping the poster, and knowing Josh personally, it
> doesn't seem like something he would do. There's actually a
> countver-example of that, in which, despite of receiving a bad review, he
> helped the OP regardless:
> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/doesnt-work-with-wordpress-351%E2%80%93sv_se-1?replies=9#post-
> 
> Could you be referencing a different review, or is it possible that some of
> the replies were deleted?
> Thanks,
> 
> Marv
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:43 PM, bc works <bcworks at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Another thing to watch out for, that happened in the review accusing the
>> plugin of injecting malicious links, is the appearance of coercing review
>> ratings. Josh refused to provide support to the reviewer until he changed
>> his rating. I completely understand where Josh was coming from here. As a
>> third party observer though, this looks really bad. How many other ratings
>> were coerced? (I know, none) The point is the appearance of impropriety
>> taints the entire collection of reviews in a bad way.
>> 
>> The final rating may have been higher if the reviewer's need for
>> information was not held hostage for a higher rating. If I were the
>> reviewer, I too would have done the minimum required to get the needed
>> response. OTOH, if my questions were answered freely and I saw my concerns
>> were accepted as even slightly justified, and the reason why things are
>> this way were explained, I would be much more inclined to give an honest
>> evaluation. Maybe even perhaps overly generous to compensate for my
>> previous misunderstanding.
>> 
>> Asking a reviewer to reconsider is fine, everyone needs a little nudge. But
>> demanding a better review in exchange for support is... well, I'm not going
>> to say because it could be construed as insulting the UltimateTinyMCE team,
>> which is not my intention at all.
>> 
>> This is all water under the bridge of course, but it serves to foster
>> discussion about how to handle these things because something similar will
>> happen again. Do not coerce ratings!
>> 
>> -bc (Glenn)
>> 
>>> Mika A Epstein <mailto:ipstenu at ipstenu.org>
>>> April 16, 2013 12:30 PM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes. They are exactly the same.
>>> 
>>> The problem with monitoring and editing reviews is that while YOU may
>>> think someone being pissed off that a plugin didn't work right is an
>>> unfair review, that doesn't make it an invalid review. The onus is on
>>> you to get them to change the review.
>>> 
>>> Also keep in mind that over time, the reviews will balance out, so one
>>> idiot review won't hurt too much.
>>> 
>>> Of course getting people who are happy to leave a review is always
>>> tough :/
>>> 
>>> That said, this specific review is 100% accurate and valid:
>>> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/malicious-files?replies=7#post-
>>> 
>>> Yes it sucks, but it's what happened, and they were right to give a
>>> bad rating for it. That stuff happens. How you handle it is what makes
>>> or breaks you, not THAT it happens.
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