[wp-forums] Bozo no bozo?

Tue Dec 18 22:01:05 UTC 2012

I've not seen many Bozo posts from him, is it worth Bozoing if his contributing posts outweigh his noncontributing posts? 
@Mark Ratledge Should we be penalising unsmart answers? We've all been wrong on forums, it's how we learn.
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Today's Topics:

   1. Bozo no bozo? (Mark Ratledge)
   2. Re: Bozo no bozo? (James Huff)
   3. Re: Bozo no bozo? (Mika A Epstein)
   4. Re: Bozo no bozo? (James Huff)
   5. Re: Bozo no bozo? (Mika A Epstein)
   6. Re: Bozo no bozo? (Mark Ratledge)
   7. Re: Bozo no bozo? (Jan Dembowski)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:37:12 -0700
From: Mark Ratledge <mark at markratledge.com>
Subject: [wp-forums] Bozo no bozo?
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Is it just me, or is a bozo not really a bozo anymore? I thought that when someone who was bozoed - like http://wordpress.org/support/profile/noahjonah (who is back at work today, incidentally) - would have their posts be invisible to users.

Thought for sure last week I saw that was the case; bozo meant invisibility, and when I logged out, bozo posts were not viewable. But today I log out and still see all his posts.

I don't have "bozo" powers so I don't see the options for that setting or know anymore than this, or what I thought I saw.  -- songdogtech

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:42:00 -0800
From: James Huff <james at automattic.com>
Subject: Re: [wp-forums] Bozo no bozo?
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Both "This user is a bozo" and "Akismet Always Trust" were checked, probably a conflict. I unchecked the latter, can't remember if "Akismet Never Trust" should be checked instead.

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On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Mark Ratledge wrote:

> Is it just me, or is a bozo not really a bozo anymore? I thought that when someone who was bozoed - like http://wordpress.org/support/profile/noahjonah (who is back at work today, incidentally) - would have their posts be invisible to users.
>
> Thought for sure last week I saw that was the case; bozo meant invisibility, and when I logged out, bozo posts were not viewable. But today I log out and still see all his posts.
>
> I don't have "bozo" powers so I don't see the options for that setting or know anymore than this, or what I thought I saw. -- songdogtech
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:43:41 -0800
From: Mika A Epstein <ipstenu at ipstenu.org>
Subject: Re: [wp-forums] Bozo no bozo?
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Mark: Bozo means that, at first, their posts have to be approved. But
sometimes we manually approve them if they calm down. If the post needs
approval, it'll be in red while you're logged in as an admin.

James: We only check the Akismet Never if they're a spammer. If they're
just having a bad day and lost their minds, Bozo stands until they calm
the heck down. Having Akismet TRUST there implies he was dinged for bad
behavior, but not spamming, and needed a time out.

James Huff wrote:
>
> Both "This user is a bozo" and "Akismet Always Trust" were checked,
> probably a conflict. I unchecked the latter, can't remember if
> "Akismet Never Trust" should be checked instead.
>
> ________
> James Huff
> http://macmanx.com
>
> http://automattic.com
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Mark Ratledge wrote:
>
>>
>> Is it just me, or is a bozo not really a bozo anymore? I thought that
>> when someone who was bozoed - like
>> http://wordpress.org/support/profile/noahjonah (who is back at work
>> today, incidentally) - would have their posts be invisible to users.
>>
>> Thought for sure last week I saw that was the case; bozo meant
>> invisibility, and when I logged out, bozo posts were not viewable.
>> But today I log out and still see all his posts.
>>
>> I don't have "bozo" powers so I don't see the options for that
>> setting or know anymore than this, or what I thought I saw. --
>> songdogtech
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:50:28 -0800
From: James Huff <james at automattic.com>
Subject: Re: [wp-forums] Bozo no bozo?
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Gotcha, thanks for clarifying! So much has changed, one of these days I'll be involved enough again to keep track.

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On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Mika A Epstein wrote:

> Mark: Bozo means that, at first, their posts have to be approved. But
> sometimes we manually approve them if they calm down. If the post needs
> approval, it'll be in red while you're logged in as an admin.
>
> James: We only check the Akismet Never if they're a spammer. If they're
> just having a bad day and lost their minds, Bozo stands until they calm
> the heck down. Having Akismet TRUST there implies he was dinged for bad
> behavior, but not spamming, and needed a time out.
>
> James Huff wrote:
> >
> > Both "This user is a bozo" and "Akismet Always Trust" were checked,
> > probably a conflict. I unchecked the latter, can't remember if
> > "Akismet Never Trust" should be checked instead.
> >
> > ________
> > James Huff
> > http://macmanx.com
> >
> > http://automattic.com
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Mark Ratledge wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Is it just me, or is a bozo not really a bozo anymore? I thought that
> > > when someone who was bozoed - like
> > > http://wordpress.org/support/profile/noahjonah (who is back at work
> > > today, incidentally) - would have their posts be invisible to users.
> > >
> > > Thought for sure last week I saw that was the case; bozo meant
> > > invisibility, and when I logged out, bozo posts were not viewable.
> > > But today I log out and still see all his posts.
> > >
> > > I don't have "bozo" powers so I don't see the options for that
> > > setting or know anymore than this, or what I thought I saw. --
> > > songdogtech
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:51:12 -0800
From: Mika A Epstein <ipstenu at ipstenu.org>
Subject: Re: [wp-forums] Bozo no bozo?
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If we had another way to put someone in time out, I'd use it, so we
don't clutter the spam queue with real people :/

James Huff wrote:
>
> Gotcha, thanks for clarifying! So much has changed, one of these days
> I'll be involved enough again to keep track.
>
> ________
> James Huff
> http://macmanx.com
>
> http://automattic.com
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Mika A Epstein wrote:
>
>>
>> Mark: Bozo means that, at first, their posts have to be approved. But
>> sometimes we manually approve them if they calm down. If the post needs
>> approval, it'll be in red while you're logged in as an admin.
>>
>> James: We only check the Akismet Never if they're a spammer. If they're
>> just having a bad day and lost their minds, Bozo stands until they calm
>> the heck down. Having Akismet TRUST there implies he was dinged for bad
>> behavior, but not spamming, and needed a time out.
>>
>> James Huff wrote:
>>>
>>> Both "This user is a bozo" and "Akismet Always Trust" were checked,
>>> probably a conflict. I unchecked the latter, can't remember if
>>> "Akismet Never Trust" should be checked instead.
>>>
>>> ________
>>> James Huff
>>> http://macmanx.com
>>>
>>> http://automattic.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Mark Ratledge wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is it just me, or is a bozo not really a bozo anymore? I thought that
>>>> when someone who was bozoed - like
>>>> http://wordpress.org/support/profile/noahjonah (who is back at work
>>>> today, incidentally) - would have their posts be invisible to users.
>>>>
>>>> Thought for sure last week I saw that was the case; bozo meant
>>>> invisibility, and when I logged out, bozo posts were not viewable.
>>>> But today I log out and still see all his posts.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have "bozo" powers so I don't see the options for that
>>>> setting or know anymore than this, or what I thought I saw. --
>>>> songdogtech
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:00:49 -0700
From: Mark Ratledge <mark at markratledge.com>
Subject: Re: [wp-forums] Bozo no bozo?
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OK, all I see is a red BOZO under their name, link and avatar in the threaded view. The post itself is normal color. I don't see an Akismet check off.

But I do see i.e., this recent post is yellow and was flagged as spam: http://wordpress.org/support/topic/giving-an-original?replies=0&view=all

BTW, bozo needed for this serious spammer http://wordpress.org/support/profile/somiya

On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Mika A Epstein wrote:

> Mark: Bozo means that, at first, their posts have to be approved. But sometimes we manually approve them if they calm down. If the post needs approval, it'll be in red while you're logged in as an admin.
>
> James: We only check the Akismet Never if they're a spammer. If they're just having a bad day and lost their minds, Bozo stands until they calm the heck down. Having Akismet TRUST there implies he was dinged for bad behavior, but not spamming, and needed a time out.
>
> James Huff wrote:
>>
>> Both "This user is a bozo" and "Akismet Always Trust" were checked, probably a conflict. I unchecked the latter, can't remember if "Akismet Never Trust" should be checked instead.
>>
>> ________
>> James Huff
>> http://macmanx.com
>>
>> http://automattic.com
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Mark Ratledge wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Is it just me, or is a bozo not really a bozo anymore? I thought that when someone who was bozoed - like http://wordpress.org/support/profile/noahjonah (who is back at work today, incidentally) - would have their posts be invisible to users.
>>>
>>> Thought for sure last week I saw that was the case; bozo meant invisibility, and when I logged out, bozo posts were not viewable. But today I log out and still see all his posts.
>>>
>>> I don't have "bozo" powers so I don't see the options for that setting or know anymore than this, or what I thought I saw. -- songdogtech
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:03:37 -0500
From: Jan Dembowski <jan at dembowski.net>
Subject: Re: [wp-forums] Bozo no bozo?
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> BTW, bozo needed for this serious spammer
> http://wordpress.org/support/profile/somiya

Done.

(Slow day at the office.)

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