[wp-forums] For people having 3.1 Drama Llamas

[Christopher Ross]

Mika, you're right. 10% is acceptable but it's higher than previous upgrades. I wasn't bitching about it, simply trying to contribute and point out that there was a higher failure rate and how to solve it if people come across it.

Chris

On 2011-02-23, at 10:24 PM, Mika A Epstein wrote:

> A not-directed-at-one-person rant ensues.
> 
> tl;dr - 10% failure is not really that high and is about HALF average for distributed software.
> 
> Okay, ranty stuff starts!
> 
> My huge pet peeve is when people get all het up about the failure rates of WordPress or ANY software, frankly. Did you know 19% failure rate is actually pretty average for software? 
> 
> Check the SquareTrade study on cellphones for an example. The iPhone has an 11% failure rate. The BlackBerry has 14% and the Treo is the worst at 21%
> http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_iPhone_Study_1108.pdf
> 
> So ... 10%?  That's fucking golden in day-one. The worst problems we will have will be from the most RARELY executed code (the weird stuff breaks more often because it's used less, basically, thank you H. Hecht).
> 
> I don't say this to trivialize the problems people have. They ARE problems!  WE as a whole should fix them. But they're unavoidable.  The point isn't to remove all problems, but to mitigate them and make them have LESS of a problem. Fix THIS problem, then move on to the next.
> 
> To your point of 10% failure rate of the automatic install, and needing manual goosing, make a list of themes and plugins on that 10% and see if something THERE is the same across the board. What about PHP?  Caching?  SQL?  FTP?  Server load at the time of the install?  I can make the auto-install fail 100% of the time if I do it when my server load is above a certain point. That's not WordPress, that's my server. Etc etc.
> 
> And it's Mika with an A, not Mike :)
> 
> On 23 Feb 2011, at 8:08:07PM, Christopher Ross wrote:
> 
>> Mike, just to add to this one ...
>> 
>> I run 100 or so blogs, each runs individual WP setups (no multisite) and so today I did ~100 upgrades on ~25 hosts. I do this for each release with about a 2% failure rate. The 3.1 upgrade today had closer to a 10% failure rate, with no obvious reason. I don't consider this extreme, certainly not unmanageable but there is a slightly higher failure rate for 3.1 for some reason (could just be server volume of latest.zip for all I know).
>> 
>> In most cases, a fresh install of the core files fixed the issue. In a couple of extreme cases, I needed to log into the admin for the upgrade to work before anything would appear in the front end.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On 2011-02-23, at 9:10 PM, Mika A Epstein wrote:
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>>> FATAL ERRORS
>>> Fatal error in the output means either your theme doesn't like 3.1, you have a plugin that doesn't like 3.1, or you have an incomplete upgrade.
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