[wp-pro] Need someone to upgrade multiple WP sites

[Dan Milward]

Can you please keep this to yourselves - off list.

Ciao,

Dan

Robert Deaton wrote:
> I swore I wasn't going to get into this mess, but a few things said
> here I really feel the need to correct.
>
> 1) People will _not_ always charge what they are worth, especially in
> an area like this. If I were to charge what I am worth for developing
> WordPress related things, I would not be able to get any work because
> a cheaper, stupider, and more entrepreneurial developer would swipe
> jobs from underneath me. I also don't charge as much as I could simply
> because this work is not as difficult as work which I would charge
> what I am worth for. On top of all of that, I don't need to charge
> what I am worth to make myself happy and live more than comfortably,
> so why should I?
>
> 2) Someone said ask about age. As someone who gets hit with silly age
> discrimination occasionally, I must say that its simply the wrong
> thing to ask. If I may, I'll use myself as a perfect example. Visit
> http://wordpress.org/about/ quickly and notice that I am listed as a
> contributing developer of WordPress. Now note that I haven't been
> active in their community in over a year, but yet still managed to
> rack up about 3 years of time as an active member of the community.
> I'd say that's a good bit of experience, and without going into other
> things that would make me further qualified, let me just say that that
> amount of experience and those kind of references should trump age any
> day. So don't judge based on age, its a silly thing to do.
>
> 3) Don't ask about fixed rates. Really, I wish some of the assholes on
> this list would stop spitting out fixed rates to peoples job requests,
> and I hope it comes back to bite them in the asses when they come to
> find out that the person was not 100% clear in their original request
> and the job ends up taking much, much longer than expected, with a
> continuing nagging about how it isn't exactly how they wanted and they
> already paid so you owe them. Wrong. Ask for and quote hourly rates,
> it saves headache from both ends, as both ends know what to expect. If
> you feel that you can't trust whoever the developer is to give you a
> truthful value for the number of hours they worked, then don't hire
> them. Check people's references, see what they've been involved in,
> try to get a feel for whether they're an honest person, and let them
> charge by the hour. Its fair to ask for an estimate of the number of
> hours if the project is well-defined, but understand that a person may
> go over that time and if its outside of your budget just ask. Some
> developers will be happy to negotiate the hourly rate to help fit your
> budget if it is a project they are truly interested in working on.
>
> 4) Find a good friend who knows some code. Ask potential developers
> for code samples, and verify that their coding is neat, efficient, and
> up to the standards for the project you'd like to have them work on.
> If its not, then don't hire them. Its that simple.
>
>
> For the developers on this list, though some of the above was targeted
> at you, most of it was for people hiring. This is my request of you:
> Stop being childish when a job request comes to the list that you
> don't agree with. Nobody said you have to do it or even give a bid for
> the project, you are free to pick and choose, and you are free to let
> the person who is asking for all the wrong things find a developer who
> is probably less capable and will not work out as desired. I'm tired
> of these stupid threads popping up where someone bites a person's head
> off over a request for a bid on a job. You don't go down to McDonalds
> and yell at the manager in public over the fact that they want to hire
> people at minimum wage and you think you're better qualified. If the
> job is below you, then don't do it, delete the mail, mark it as spam,
> do whatever you will, but leave that crap off the public mailing
> lists. The rest of us don't care.
>
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