[wp-forums] Dhoppe at it again

[Mika A Epstein]

I'll had to install his plugin and see how atrocious these 'ads' are. I mean, Yoast's got some on his SEO plugin, but if you look at them they are appropriate, tasteful, and easy to ignore. (I did donate, though)

http://cl.ly/3P3x3e2Y0J1d3G192V2y

Honestly, that's what I'd consider fine. He's upselling the pro-version, but in a non-agressive (if eye-rolling) way.

The banner/textlink ads in that guideline means a little more like 'Don't put Google Ads in your plugin admin screen, morons.'  Notice how it falls under Rule 7: "No "phoning home" without user's informed consent. This seemingly simple rule actually covers several different aspects:"

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Mika A Epstein (aka Ipstenu)
http://ipstenu.org

On 14 Mar 2012, at 10:25:37AM, Chip Bennett wrote:

> Actually, per the current, detailed
> guidelines<http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/about/guidelines/>,
> admin advertising is NOT allowed [*emphasis *added]:
> 
> *In general, things like banner or text link advertising should not be
> anywhere in a plugin, including on its settings screen.* Advertising on
> settings screens is generally ineffective anyway, as ideally users rarely
> visit these screens, and the advertising is low quality because the
> advertising systems cannot see the page content to determine good ads. So
> they're best just left off entirely. Putting links back to your own site or
> to your social-network of choice is fine. If the plugin does include
> advertising from a third party service, then it must default to completely
> disabled, in order to prevent tracking information from being collected
> from the user without their consent. This is the method commonly known as
> "opt-in".
> 
> 
> I'm sure there's some gray area there; I'm also quite sure on which side of
> that gray area these particular Plugins fall, if they solicit multiple
> support topics from end users.
> 
> Use that as you will; personally, I think his disrespectful attitude toward
> the community - and especially toward his own end users - has no place in
> the WordPress  community.
> 
> Chip
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Mika A Epstein <ipstenu at ipstenu.org>wrote:
> 
>> Advertising IN the plugin admin is allowed (if asshattery IMO).
>> 
>> But GPL vio... Can you point to one specifically?
>> 
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>> Mika A Epstein (aka Ipstenu)
>> http://ipstenu.org
>> 
>> On 14 Mar 2012, at 10:07:46AM, Francisco de Azevedo wrote:
>> 
>>> From the research I made, it seems that several of his plugins (past and
>>> present) have violated GPL, included very spam-like ads in the admin
>>> section, and asked for very expensive compensations for premium versions.
>>> In a word, his attitude is not very wordpressy, so blocking him would not
>>> constitute a huge loss for WP users, IMHO.
>>> 
>>> Marventus
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Mika A Epstein <ipstenu at ipstenu.org
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-associated-posts-lite-spam?replies=7&view=all
>>>> 
>>>> Basically he's insulting people who use (or want to use) his plugin.
>> He's
>>>> done this before. Seehttp://
>>>> lists.automattic.com/pipermail/wp-forums/2011-June/007085.html
>>>> 
>>>> At this point, he's basically being an ass. I'd block him, but he has
>>>> plugins... Should we just punt him? He's not helping anyone.
>>>> 
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