[wp-forums] Tidying tags

Michael B miklb.online at gmail.com
Thu Dec 29 19:12:56 GMT 2005


I concur with Scott, unless tags can be comined, ie, mysql+error, then error
is a moot tag.
Even so, chances are, someone searching the forum is having a problem, error
just might not be of any consequence.

I've suggested before to have a "tagging, cleaning party", so if others are
interested, let's set a day, and have a plan.

On 12/29/05, TechGnome <tg at tannagh.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Podz wrote:
>
> >Scott Merrill wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Podz wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>error (858 posts)
> >>>help (367)
> >>>mysql (255)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I think this is a legitimate tag.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>new (129)
> >>>php (348)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>this, too, is probably a legit tag.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>problem (374)
> >>>tags (203)
> >>>wordpress (363)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>The others appear useless, but the context of their posts might prove me
> >>wrong.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >So keep all but error, help, new ?
> >
> >
> >
> I agree- "help" "error" & "new" as tags are useless. A new what? was it
> about making a new page? A new database? A new install? "New" is
> useless. Same goes for "error". What kind of error? Database? 404? 500?
> Maybe if there was some sort of mechanism that could do some cross
> referencing on the tags. Example: I click "error"... in addition to the
> results now returned, have a new tag cloud that shows the rankings of
> others tags that also had "error" as a tag. Then if I click into
> "Database" it could further refine it to posts with "error" and
> "database" as tags.... and so on. Allowing for a finer and finer drill
> down. It would certanly make it easier for some one like me who wants to
> help but has a very narrow field of opportunity (I'm good with
> databases, not so good w/ PHP).
>
> -tg
>
>
> >>I think a little bit of volunteer effort to tidy up the tags goes a long
> >>way.  If we all pick one of these questionable tags, it shouldn't take
> >>us too long to skim the posts and excise the tag as necessary.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >This for me is where we need to question the whole thing.
> >To do that task takes a lot of effort consistently or a set time one day
> >to do it. Either way, is the effort expended worth the return ? If I
> >know that /tags/mysql was actually looked at X times per week, and that
> >tags/plugin was clicked a lot, that would give ME an incentive to retag
> >and maintain them. But right now I see a cloud which gets in the way and
> >has a lot of useless content.
> >So without any stats I see two options:
> >
> >1 - Leave it completely alone. Maybe deal with dupes, but otherwise
> >accept that there will be space wasted. Let it 'evolve'.
> >
> >2 - Police them aggressively and make it work better as WE see it.
> >
> >1 is no effort, 2 is potentially a lot but if there is a period of
> >intense activity from us (short of making many people have the ability
> >to alter tags) then that could lessen to a point where we know that we
> >can make a difference. Right now it sometimes feels like a waste of time
> >when you get
> >How
> >do
> >I
> >get
> >the
> >image
> >to
> >stay
> >on
> >the
> >left
> >when
> >I
> >do
> >this
> >garbage appearing.
> >I know they are in the minority, but do you see what I mean ?
> >
> >I have to say that without solid figures that the tag cloud does seem to
> >be a useless waste of space.
> >
> >I would like to see a "Click to get to the main area" and a "Click to
> >post a question" with a dropdown box for the right forum. Sure there
> >will be the odd mistake but we can move posts around more easily than
> >dozens of tags.
> >
> >The tags don't even have a "Clicking a suitable tag may help you find an
> >answer to your problem". There is an assumption (again bad) that  a
> >frustrated and confused user will arrive and think "How useful ! A tag
> >that might help me !". Whatever ... they are here to stay.
> >
> >Option 1 / 2 ? Got a 3 ? :)
> >
> >I don't have an agenda here, I'm just hoping to find a way forward that
> >most of us can agree on.
> >
> >P.
> >
> >
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