[wp-ui] Admin theme-ing

[Toon Van de Putte]

It'd be less of a problem if the 'theming' was limited to a custom css file,
I think. That way, colourizing and branding the backend would become
possible, but a total overhaul would be impossible.
Could wreak havoc with the Ajax/jQuery stuff I guess.

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Michael Kuhlmann <sactown.mike at gmail.com>wrote:

>  The obvious "benefit" of being able to theme the admin area is to carry
> over the branding from the front-end to the back-end. John already mentioned
> two good ways of cleaning it up and this plugin
> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/white-label-cms/ would certainly take
> care of the rest. I don't think the option to theme the admin area is the
> best one either, even though I *love* to theme virtually anything I can get
> my hands on -- some things are better left alone to retain simplicity.
>
> Here's just one scenario of how this could go south very quickly: A
> designer decides to fully rebrand, redesign the backend and revert to a
> horizontal menu a la WP 2.0, at her client's request. She decides to bail
> the site/maintenance after a year or two and the menu is all out of whack,
> come the next upgrade. Now, the client has a funky menu and it's all
> WordPress' fault. The client could just get rid of the custom admin theme
> altogether, but that would mean having to re-learn to the navigation. Again,
> it's all WordPress' fault. Well, not really... but you get what I mean. This
> is typically how a CMS gets pounded on.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 6/3/2010 3:08 PM, Toon Van de Putte wrote:
>
> Is all of this well documented? The Screen Options I know about, but the
> custom fields thing is new to me. But my main argument was *against* admin
> themes. I don't see the point, frankly, besides some superficial cosmetic
> stuff.
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:54 PM, John O'Nolan <john.wp at onolan.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Toon,
>> You can already hide many panels via the Screen Options tab, and custom
>> fields are fairly easy to customise now via the functions.php file of a
>> theme, no need for a plugin!
>>
>>  Hope that helps
>>
>>  John
>>
>>
>>
>>  On 3 Jun 2010, at 22:36, Toon Van de Putte wrote:
>>
>> I don't think that is a good idea. I think it's one of those features that
>> sets Wordpress apart from, say, Drupal and that makes Wordpress much more
>> usable out-of-the-box.
>> The standardized look 'n' feel of the admin is one of the reasons I really
>> like Wordpress. It just works, and it makes sense that a well-designed admin
>> interface doesn't need themes.
>> What I would like is the ability to show/hide certain panels, have more
>> flexibility in how custom fields are integrated (without resorting to a
>> plugin), etc. But the basic layout and functionality of the admin does not
>> need theming, imho.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Luke Gedeon <luke.gedeon at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Call me crazy, but it seems like the easiest way to solve the look and
>>> feel issues with the admin is to make it as easy to theme the admin as it is
>>> to theme the site.
>>>
>>> Give designers a while and see what ideas happen. We can then take the
>>> best ideas and build them into the default theme.
>>>
>>> To encourage theme development we need to:
>>> 1. Set-up an admin theme repository.
>>> 2. Add a page inside admin to choose and install new admin themes.
>>> 3. Make admin themes editable in theme editor tool.
>>> 4. Allow users to select admin themes separate from site themes but allow
>>> theme designers to ship matching/complementary themes.
>>>
>>> I have got to be missing something????
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>> Luke Gedeon
>>> http://luke.gedeon.name
>>>
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