[wp-testers] 2.9-beta-1 is available

[Dave Jones]

Yes, you can automate unit tests (NUnit, etc) but it's near impossible  
to automate integration testing and functional testing because the  
latter are largely qualitative rather than quantitive.

I think there ought to be a 2.9-beta1 option in the Extend  
compatibility box so testers can begin flagging potential problems  
with plugins.  What does everyone think?

Dave Jones
www.technicacreative.co.uk


On 17 Nov 2009, at 14:51, Otto wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Gene Steinberg  
> <gene at technightowl.com> wrote:
>> There is, as yet, no listing for WP 2.9, no link at all. That WAS  
>> my original point, and one that still isn't being addressed by  
>> several messages containing misdirection but nothing relevant.
>>
>> It's not a question of whether the compatibility is determined  
>> automatically or by direct contributions. Where is it?
>>
>> If you're seeing something that isn't showing up here, let me know.
>>
>> Peace,
>> Gene
>
> Gene,
>
> There's no way to test compatibility automatically. Provably
> impossible. All WordPress could possibly test on an automated basis is
> that it loads and doesn't cause a fatal error (WordPress itself does
> that on plugin activation).
>
> Real "compatibility" is only determined by usage. Does the plugin do
> what it's supposed to? Which features are broken? But this is a
> judgment call, not something you can automate.
>
> Compatibility is therefore determined by users testing it. The Extend
> pages have that box on there to let people say whether it's compatible
> with new releases. There's no "2.9" listed because WordPress 2.9 does
> not exist yet. This is a BETA release. Things are expected to not
> work. Having people report plugin compatibility on those pages with
> beta releases is unfair to the plugin authors. If you find
> incompatibilities in a Beta release, you should be either contacting
> the plugin author about it, or finding a new plugin to replace that
> one you're using.
>
> Anyway, if you want to test your plugins early, go ahead. If not,
> don't. And if you're unhappy with that, then don't upgrade until other
> people test the plugins for you. Or hire somebody. Or just don't
> upgrade.
> These are your choices.
>
> -Otto
> Sent from Memphis, TN, United States
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