[wp-testers] Paste as Plain Text?

[Daniel Schoonover]

So let me get this straight.  The way it was working before RC2 (the same
way it worked in 2.3.3 was wrong?  That way seemed to work better, I would
usually get the format to carry over to my pasting in my blog.  Now I have
to reformat things whenever I paste into the visual editor.  It makes no
sense we you would make a user have to do a command twice to input text.

Also I am experiencing some type of issue where once I did do the plain text
paste and then hit "Insert" the text that is show in my visual editor would
basically be locked, ie.  I could delete any of it.  I could change formate
(bold,underline,etc) but no editing of the words themselves.

Lastly when you are typing a post, there is no Cancel button, there is
Preview, Save, and Publish, but no link for Cancel (people sometimes change
their mind).  The novice user may get frustrated that there is no button for
it but there is for all the other options.  You and I may know we can just
leave the page and will get prompted with a Info box, but once again this
seems to be counter productive of just having a Cancel button (I realize
2.3.3 didn't have cancel either, just always seemed weird, so I decided to
mention it now).

Cheers!
Daniel
http://www.dangarion.com
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:55:02 -0800
From: Andrew Ozz <admin at laptoptips.ca>
Subject: Re: [wp-testers] Paste as Plain Text?
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Daniel Schoonover wrote:
> I'm trying to find out is the "Paste as Plain Text" popup screen you get
> when you attempt to past something into a post something that was
> implemented in RC2?  Doesn't this seem a little redundant?  If the only
way
> I can paste in the visual interface is as Plain Text then why do I need a
> popup that requires me to do Ctrl-V twice to do a function that should
only
> take once?  I don't see the ability to not paste as plain text since even
if
> I hit cancel and then do Ctrl-V again it just brings me back to the "Paste
> as Plain Text" box again.
>
> I don't think I installed a plugin that made this happen, it seems like a
> new function from RC2, because there was no "Paste as Plain Text" in RC1.
>
> Thanks for reading.
>

This is the standard behaviour of TinyMCE since version 2.x when the
"paste" plugin is installed. I think it was broken/disabled in earlier
3.0.x versions.

The problem is that when pasting from another web page or from Word, the
results can be unpredictable and depend on many factors: your browser,
the coding/layout of the page, whether it has non-standard html or bad
coding, etc.

Since FF2 and Opera don't support "onPaste" event and FF3 and Safari 3.1
support it only partially, that popup is shown so the pasted content can
be cleaned up before inserting in the post. In IE it is done automatically.

The "paste" plugin offers 2 modes: Plain text and Paste from Word, that
keeps some of the formatting. You can also try pasting in "HTML" mode.
Each will give slightly different results.


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