<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Agreed, Jane, please chime in. If we the users want it, let us have it.<div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:21 AM, Gavin Pearce wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Jane - the WP-Pro mailing list would welcome your views please.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">The vast majority here would like it to stay, and no discussion has been made within the community of your recent decision.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Gav<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; ">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Dan Milward<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>19 August 2010 04:49<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Marcy Capron<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:wp-pro@lists.automattic.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">wp-pro@lists.automattic.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [wp-pro] Discontinuing this mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">It would make sense... those kids are always pushing the boundaries.. does anybody know of a good HTML5-Pro mailing list :P<br><br>d<br><br>On 19/08/10 3:41 PM, Marcy Capron wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">Hmm, I think the Easy Car Seat man had a point -- why not buildout the WPCOOP thing to be a buddypress site with job boards obviously, and have job postings auto-send to the google group email??<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">hell, with all the traffic from developers, The Deck Network would probably dish out serious money for adspace.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">Just sayin'.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">p.s. Dan -- I hear a lot of Ruby on Rails programmers are knee deep in HTML5...<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">Marcy<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">..............................................................<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">{ POLYMATHIC } + <a href="http://polymathicmedia.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">polymathicmedia.com</a><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">Project Manager + Senior Developer <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">@polymathicmedia + 773.454.3140 <o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Impress The Net <<a href="mailto:impressthenet@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">impressthenet@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">Add me to the list of people who would be disappointed if this list<br>were to die a quick, yet untimely, death.<br><br>I don't consider myself a WP Pro, as I've mainly only generated themes<br>from existing layouts (something I'm expecting to change once the<br>demands of clients and a full time job ease up.) But even lurking has<br>been a good thing.<br><br>With 22 years of software development, I've seen plenty of things<br>change. It would be nice if the loss of this list wasn't an<br>additional one.<br><br>2010/8/18 Marek Rattiste <<a href="mailto:marek@rattiste.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">marek@rattiste.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">> I'm really sad seeing this list go. I've found some great clients from here<br>> and as I can see the workflow is ongoing. Despite the fact that we have<br>> places like<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://jobs.wordpress.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">jobs.wordpress.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and other hiring sites, some clients still<br>> turn here with their problems.<br>><br>> Wish you the very best, WP developers!<br>><br>> Marek Rattiste<br>> Phone: +372 566 18001<br>> Skype: marek.rattiste<br>> MSN:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:marek@rattiste.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">marek@rattiste.com</a><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.rattiste.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.rattiste.com</a><br>><br>><br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com</a><br>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com</a>] On Behalf Of Jane Wells<br>> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:27 PM<br>> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:wp-pro@lists.automattic.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">wp-pro@lists.automattic.com</a><br>> Subject: [wp-pro] Discontinuing this mailing list<br>><br>> Hello everyone. When this list was started back in 2005, there were not that<br>> many WordPress consultants, and not that many people hiring them, either. :)<br>> As you know, since that time WordPress has grown considerably, and the<br>> number of people making a living from WordPress-based businesses is amazing.<br>> There are numerous websites to connect consultants to gigs, referral<br>> services, help lines, etc. Because that seems to be where the bulk of<br>> opportunities are getting posted these days, we're going to deactivate the<br>> wp-pro mailing list this week.<br>><br>> Let's face it: when someone says they want to hire someone for a WordPress<br>> job, making them sign up for a mailing list just to post an ad is a little<br>> ridiculous when they could go to a site like<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://jobs.wordpress.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://jobs.wordpress.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and<br>> put up a post that can be easily managed/updated in moments as well as being<br>> seen by far more people.<br>><br>> For anyone subscribed to the list currently wondering where they should go<br>> now to post jobs/look for consultants, we recommend<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://jobs.wordpress.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://jobs.wordpress.net</a>, though other sites such as<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://elance.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://elance.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.odesk.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.odesk.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>usually have a lot of WordPress gig listings as well.<br>> There's also a consultant list at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://codepoet.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://codepoet.com</a>.<br>><br>> Mailing lists are great for discussions, but they're just not the best way<br>> to hire people. 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