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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Probably best we don't decide who is a pro, but
quickly identify those who are fraudulant and boot them from the list. 2 strike
rule, if people make broken promises that is just the way it should be,
especially if payment was involved. Craiglist boots people, why shouldn't we?
This list isn't really supposed to be another eLance, but there is some good
commerce here, and the bad apples do ruin the bunch.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mschwab@illuminea.com href="mailto:mschwab@illuminea.com">Miriam
Schwab</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dan@micamedia.com
href="mailto:dan@micamedia.com">Dan Foley</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=wp-pro@lists.automattic.com
href="mailto:wp-pro@lists.automattic.com">wp-pro@lists.automattic.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:05
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [wp-pro] wp-pro Digest, Vol
60, Issue 12</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>How are we going to decide who's a pro? What level of knowledge
makes one a pro? For example, although I've been working with WordPress for
over three years, I'm always learning new things and there are definitely
people out there who know more than me.<BR><BR>What I'm saying is there are
always going to be different levels of providers and I think that they all
have the right to their place in the
marketplace.<BR><BR>Miriam<BR><BR>------------------------------<BR>Miriam
Schwab<BR><A href="http://WPGarage.com">WPGarage.com</A><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Dan Foley <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:dan@micamedia.com">dan@micamedia.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Agreed. Only Pros should be on this list.<BR><BR>Dan
Foley<BR>Lead Programmer -
Owner<BR>_________________________________________________<BR><A
href="http://micamedia.com" target=_blank>micamedia.com</A> - web -
print<BR><BR>On 6/15/2010 3:30 PM, <A
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of wp-pro digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR> 1. Re:
Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU)<BR> HITESH(<A
href="mailto:kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com</A>) (Gustavo Silva
Bordoni)<BR> 2. Re: Warning regarding:
KANERIYA(HUTU)<BR> HITESH(<A
href="mailto:kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com</A>) (Ashish [Outshine
Solutions])<BR> 3. Re: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU)
HITESH<BR> (<A href="mailto:kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com</A>) (Daniel Cameron)<BR>
4. Re: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH<BR>
(<A href="mailto:kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com</A>) (Daniel Cameron)<BR>
5. Fwd: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH<BR>
(<A href="mailto:kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com</A>) (MLR)<BR> 6. Re:
Fwd: Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH<BR> (<A
href="mailto:kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com</A>)
(mailapera)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message:
1<BR>Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:48:18 -0300<BR>From: Gustavo Silva
Bordoni<<A href="http://webord.net" target=_blank>webord.net</A>@<A
href="http://gmail.com" target=_blank>gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re:
[wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU)<BR>
HITESH(<A href="mailto:kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com</A>)<BR>To: OTCListings<<A
href="mailto:info@otclistings.com"
target=_blank>info@otclistings.com</A>>, <A
href="mailto:wp-pro@lists.automattic.com"
target=_blank>wp-pro@lists.automattic.com</A><BR>Message-ID:<BR>
<<A
href="mailto:AANLkTilkHqPMbRkw0PmpQWhYqQgEu6RgqjetScOEMq5m@mail.gmail.com"
target=_blank>AANLkTilkHqPMbRkw0PmpQWhYqQgEu6RgqjetScOEMq5m@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Agreed.<BR>--<BR>Gustavo Silva
Bordoni - <A href="http://webord.net/"
target=_blank>http://webord.net/</A><BR><BR><A
href="mailto:gustavo@webord.net"
target=_blank>gustavo@webord.net</A><BR><A href="http://webord.net"
target=_blank>webord.net</A>@<A href="http://gmail.com"
target=_blank>gmail.com</A><BR><BR>+55 (21) 9416-4506<BR><BR><BR>On Tue,
Jun 15, 2010 at 08:55, OTCListings<<A
href="mailto:info@otclistings.com"
target=_blank>info@otclistings.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>
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class=gmail_quote> Interesting, you have my vote for Black List...
should you remove people<BR>from this list if they are NOT WP PRO
people. Definately something to take<BR>up with the list manager. I
would say take a stiff approach and cut people<BR>out if they are not
pro's or professional.<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>*From:*
Bob Matsuoka<<A href="mailto:bob@mokamedianyc.com"
target=_blank>bob@mokamedianyc.com</A>><BR>*To:* <A
href="mailto:wp-pro@lists.automattic.com"
target=_blank>wp-pro@lists.automattic.com</A><BR>*Sent:* Tuesday, June
15, 2010 12:00 PM<BR>*Subject:* [wp-pro] Warning regarding:
KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH(<BR><A href="mailto:kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com</A>)<BR><BR>Just a heads up that
I entered in an agreement with Hitesh last year to<BR>develop a custom
WP plugin for me (found him on this list). After agreeing<BR>on
the scope of work and price, I gave him a down payment to begin
work.<BR> After several weeks of stalling, he admitted that he was
unable to complete<BR>the task, and in fact never delivered a single
line of code. He has<BR>admitted fault and indicated he would
refund my deposit, but has not done so<BR>after over a year.<BR><BR>I am
happy to provide an email trail if you're interested in the
details<BR>for proof. Hitesh is long on reassurances and talk,
very short on delivery.<BR> I would stay far
away.<BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>wp-pro
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2<BR>Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:22:27 +0530<BR>From: "Ashish [Outshine
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target=_blank>ashish@outshinesolutions.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re:
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HITESH(<A href="mailto:kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com</A>)<BR>To: Gustavo Silva
Bordoni<<A href="http://webord.net" target=_blank>webord.net</A>@<A
href="http://gmail.com" target=_blank>gmail.com</A>><BR>Cc: <A
href="mailto:wp-pro@lists.automattic.com"
target=_blank>wp-pro@lists.automattic.com</A><BR>Message-ID:<<A
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3<BR>Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:49:55 -0700<BR>From: Daniel Cameron<<A
href="mailto:dan@sproutventure.com"
target=_blank>dan@sproutventure.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [wp-pro]
Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH<BR> (<A
href="mailto:kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com</A>)<BR>To: Bob Matsuoka<<A
href="mailto:bob@mokamedianyc.com"
target=_blank>bob@mokamedianyc.com</A>><BR>Cc: <A
href="mailto:wp-pro@lists.automattic.com"
target=_blank>wp-pro@lists.automattic.com</A><BR>Message-ID:<BR>
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text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Very similar results. I set him up
with a small project to see if I could<BR>outsource some of my small
projects. Total FAIL!! Just copied an existing<BR>plugin and didn't do
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4<BR>Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:56:39 -0700<BR>From: Daniel Cameron<<A
href="mailto:dan@sproutventure.com"
target=_blank>dan@sproutventure.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [wp-pro]
Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH<BR> (<A
href="mailto:kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com</A>)<BR>To: Sam Hotchkiss<<A
href="mailto:sam@hotchkissconsulting.net"
target=_blank>sam@hotchkissconsulting.net</A>><BR>Cc: Bob
Matsuoka<<A href="mailto:bob@mokamedianyc.com"
target=_blank>bob@mokamedianyc.com</A>>, <A
href="mailto:wp-pro@lists.automattic.com"
target=_blank>wp-pro@lists.automattic.com</A><BR>Message-ID:<BR>
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href="mailto:AANLkTim17LjykbnyncnL6kmkLpvFLqphBGX6Tcp0B0vv@mail.gmail.com"
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text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>I had the same idea when a thread
about clients came up on this list last<BR>year. Never transpired because
people talked about risk<BR>of unwarranted feedback ( on both ends
).<BR><BR>PS: I think this should be taken off list, maybe someone with a
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5<BR>Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:54:45 -0400<BR>From: MLR<<A
href="mailto:mlrichard@gmail.com"
target=_blank>mlrichard@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: [wp-pro] Fwd:
Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH<BR> (<A
href="mailto:kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com</A>)<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:wp-pro@lists.automattic.com"
target=_blank>wp-pro@lists.automattic.com</A><BR>Message-ID:<BR>
<<A
href="mailto:AANLkTin5tvpATnBNAl1sC2cSeCPwljVWks_8ZRgDW52o@mail.gmail.com"
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text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>---------- Forwarded message
----------<BR>From: MLR<<A href="mailto:mlrichard@gmail.com"
target=_blank>mlrichard@gmail.com</A>><BR>Date: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at
2:53 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH
(<BR><A href="mailto:kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com</A>)<BR>To: Daniel Cameron<<A
href="mailto:dan@sproutventure.com"
target=_blank>dan@sproutventure.com</A>><BR><BR><BR>Anyone who builds
such a database should first and foremost consider making<BR>it a feedback
system similar to systems found in eBay or Etsy so that good<BR>comments
can be shared. I have had some major fails and some wonderful wins<BR>when
it comes to clients found on this forum and all things considered
I<BR>would myself rather hire someone with a majority of positive feedback
about<BR>similar projects rather than the unknown newbie who simply has 0
negative<BR>feedback yet. A black list system is just Yuk and negative and
attracts<BR>unprofessional venting.<BR><BR>On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:56
PM, Daniel Cameron<<A href="mailto:dan@sproutventure.com"
target=_blank>dan@sproutventure.com</A>>wrote:<BR><BR>
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class=gmail_quote>I had the same idea when a thread about clients came
up on this list last<BR>year. Never transpired because people talked
about risk<BR>of unwarranted feedback ( on both ends ).<BR><BR>PS: I
think this should be taken off list, maybe someone with a blog
can<BR>post about it
:)<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>wp-pro
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6<BR>Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:29:43 +0200<BR>From: mailapera<<A
href="mailto:mailapera@gmail.com"
target=_blank>mailapera@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Fwd:
Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU) HITESH<BR> (<A
href="mailto:kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com</A>)<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:wp-pro@lists.automattic.com"
target=_blank>wp-pro@lists.automattic.com</A><BR>Message-ID:<BR>
<<A
href="mailto:AANLkTik7Ni26M8YWe8R5ygdWU1FkSE4iduEVWaxgNm0q@mail.gmail.com"
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text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>Yes I think transparency is key. I
had a lot of bad experiences here,<BR>and a couple of good ones. I have no
idea why there is so much worry<BR>about bad feedback. When you do a good
job people say it outright. If<BR>you are interested on positive feedback
only try Flattr then ;) A<BR>balanced way of sharing feedback is foremost
important, especially<BR>when you work long distance like it often happens
here. Plus people<BR>have better things to do than just vent for no reason
here.<BR><BR><BR><BR>On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:54 PM, MLR<<A
href="mailto:mlrichard@gmail.com"
target=_blank>mlrichard@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>
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----------<BR>From: MLR<<A href="mailto:mlrichard@gmail.com"
target=_blank>mlrichard@gmail.com</A>><BR>Date: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at
2:53 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Warning regarding: KANERIYA(HUTU)
HITESH<BR>(<A href="mailto:kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kaneriya.hitesh@gmail.com</A>)<BR>To: Daniel Cameron<<A
href="mailto:dan@sproutventure.com"
target=_blank>dan@sproutventure.com</A>><BR><BR><BR>Anyone who builds
such a database should first and foremost consider making<BR>it a
feedback system similar to systems found in eBay or Etsy so that
good<BR>comments can be shared. I have had some major fails and some
wonderful wins<BR>when it comes to clients found on this forum and all
things considered I<BR>would myself rather hire someone with a majority
of positive feedback about<BR>similar projects rather than the unknown
newbie who simply has 0 negative<BR>feedback yet. A black list system is
just Yuk and negative and attracts<BR>unprofessional venting.<BR><BR>On
Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Daniel Cameron<<A
href="mailto:dan@sproutventure.com"
target=_blank>dan@sproutventure.com</A>><BR>wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
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class=gmail_quote><BR>I had the same idea when a thread about clients
came up on this list last<BR>year. Never transpired because people
talked about risk<BR>of?unwarranted?feedback ( on both ends ).<BR>PS:
I think this should be taken off list, maybe someone with a blog
can<BR>post about it
:)<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>wp-pro
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