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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=163321516-05102008>I have one for everyone (to be included in the "how to 
hire a pro" category).&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2><SPAN class=163321516-05102008>Anyone who is quick to denounce and 
complain about occasional, friendly chit-chat on a list of pros that generates 
comparatively minor email traffic, should be avoided when seeking a pro.&nbsp; 
Probably not going to the friendliest type to deal with.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=163321516-05102008>CB</SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT size=2>
<P align=left>--<BR>Skaneateles Design<BR>briel@skaneatelesdesign.com<BR>(315) 
685-2492</P>
<P>Visit us at: <BR></FONT><A href="http://www.brielcomputer.com/"><U><FONT 
color=#0000ff size=2><A 
href="http://www.skaneatelesdesign.com/">http://www.skaneatelesdesign.com</U></FONT></A><FONT 
size=2></FONT></A></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Also check out:<BR></FONT><A 
href="http://www.skaneatelestalk.com/"><U><FONT color=#0000ff 
size=2>http://www.skaneatelestalk.com</U></FONT></A><FONT size=2> </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>&nbsp;</P></FONT>
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  <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> bj [mailto:bj@kickasswebdesign.com] 
  <BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Skaneateles 
  Design<BR><B>Cc:</B> wp-pro@lists.automattic.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re[2]: 
  [wp-pro] How to Hire a Pro<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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  <P>Speaking of all being pros, can we keep the noise down please? This list is 
  for the posting of wordpress work requests. Period. If y'all wanna have a 
  conversation about articles and geeks, start your own list.</P>
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  <P><SPAN class=rvts6>--&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN class=rvts6>Ciao for now,</SPAN></P>
  <P><SPAN class=rvts6>&nbsp;bj &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 
  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</SPAN><A class=rvts7 
  href="mailto:bj@kickasswebdesign.com">mailto:bj@kickasswebdesign.com</A></P>
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  <P><A class=rvts7 
  href="http://kickasswebdesign.com">http://kickasswebdesign.com</A></P>
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  <P><BR></P>
  <P><SPAN class=rvts6>Sunday, October 5, 2008, 11:13:13 AM, you 
  wrote:</SPAN></P>
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        <P><SPAN class=rvts9>I don't mind being called a geek.. It seems to me 
        to be sort&nbsp;of a badge of honor. :) &nbsp;I have one customer who 
        constantly writes and refers to me as a "computer geek type," and I've 
        never taken it badly. &nbsp;I think he says it with envy. &nbsp;;) 
        &nbsp;Lots of others have said it from time to time to, and I can't 
        remember a time that I was ever offended.</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts9>Cary Briel</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts10>--</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts10>Skaneateles Design</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts10>briel@skaneatelesdesign.com</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts10>(315) 685-2492</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts11>Visit us at:&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
        <P><A class=rvts12 
        href="http://www.skaneatelesdesign.com/">http://www.skaneatelesdesign.com</A></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts10>Also check out:</SPAN></P>
        <P><A class=rvts13 
        href="http://www.skaneatelestalk.com/">http://www.skaneatelestalk.com</A><SPAN 
        class=rvts10>&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts10></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts11></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
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        <P><SPAN class=rvts14>From:</SPAN><SPAN 
        class=rvts10>&nbsp;wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com 
        [mailto:wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com]&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN 
        class=rvts14>On Behalf Of&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN class=rvts10>David 
        Coveney</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts14>Sent:</SPAN><SPAN class=rvts10>&nbsp;Sunday, 
        October 05, 2008 5:15 AM</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts14>To:</SPAN><SPAN 
        class=rvts10>&nbsp;wp-pro@lists.automattic.com</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts14>Subject:</SPAN><SPAN class=rvts10>&nbsp;[wp-pro] 
        How to Hire a Pro</SPAN></P>
        <P><BR></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts15>A while back I suggested I could write a guide on 
        hiring a professional and lots of people said &#8216;yes!&#8217;. &nbsp;It followed 
        a number of wp-pro requests that were pretty low-ball, unprofessional 
        and denigrated the skills of the people on this list.</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts15></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts15>Finally I&#8217;ve written a &#8216;lite&#8217; 
        version:&nbsp;</SPAN><A class=rvts7 
        href="http://liverpoolwebdesigner.com/2008/10/04/if-you-want-to-hire-a-professional-act-like-one/">http://liverpoolwebdesigner.com/2008/10/04/if-you-want-to-hire-a-professional-act-like-one/</A></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts15></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts15>Unfortunately what I&#8217;ve not had time to do is to 
        write a full &#8216;how to specify WordPress work&#8217; article, but I&#8217;m hoping to 
        do that in the near future as a guideline for potential clients. 
        &nbsp;In the above I do raise a few points along the lines of how a 
        mockup doesn&#8217;t constitute a full design document, for 
example.</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts15></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts15>Hopefully it&#8217;s helpful. &nbsp;It might seem a bit 
        testy, but other developers so far seem to relate well to the issues I 
        put across.</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts15></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts15>All the best everyone and good luck in both hiring 
        pros, and being hired by them :o)</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts15></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts15>Dave Coveney</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts15>Interconnect IT</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts15>+44 (0)151 709 7977</SPAN></P>
        <P><SPAN class=rvts15>http://www.interconnectit.com</SPAN></P>
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