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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It would definitely be more than 10
minutes when you figure in the logging into the host, setting up the database
(db name, user and password), checking on and waiting for the database to get
setup, etc. Then ftp the WP files over, and do the install. Is there a theme
that needs to be uploaded and activated? Same with plug-ins and sending the
email with the username/password for WP, etc. Of course then there's the
setting up the account/billing info for a new client<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nothing is ever just 10 minutes. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Christina Lannen<br>
****************************************<br>
Lannen Designs<br>
Professional Web Solutions<br>
Domain Name Registration and Hosting<br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a href="http://www.lannendesigns.com/"
title="http://www.lannendesigns.com/"><font color=black><span style='color:
black'>http://www.lannendesigns.com/</span></font></a></span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com [mailto:wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>David Coveney<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 21, 2008
4:44 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Jordon Bedwell'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> wp-pro@lists.automattic.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [wp-pro] 2 WP
Installs for 10 bucks</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>While I think Tim was a
little hasty in his response, I do understand his point.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>$10 isn’t
much. Installing or upgrading WP isn’t a difficult job
either… but it can be! With clients who want a WP service hosted on
our machines we charge nothing for the setup because it’s so darned quick
and easy. But if it’s going on their server… we have to say it’ll
be an hourly charge. I’ve had one install eat a whole day in time
because the server turned out to be set up incorrectly and the hosts needed
talking through it all. Then add on billing, accounting for the payment
(a pro has to do accounting, no choices!) and maybe chasing it up…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Already it looks like
it’s a troublesome job – if you follow the instructions WP should
take a few minutes to get going. So that’s a sign of problem number
one – perhaps it’s taking time because there’s a server issue?
There’s a good chance this could end up eating an afternoon of time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Then what happens?
Are you stuck at $10 because you agreed a fixed cost job? If you ask for
more in the event of problems do you then get slated on the forums? What
if the server is incompatible? Ultimately, for most professionals, it
simply isn’t worth the risk to their company’s/own reputation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The vast majority of
times I keep quiet on this conference because a fair proportion of the requests
do indeed appear to be from people hoping for a very cheap job – often at
a fixed price. Because of the risks inherent, a real pro simply
can’t do that. It doesn’t help us that the value of the
dollar has dived either, being based in <st1:place w:st="on">Europe</st1:place>.
I’ve sometimes felt that this mailing list should be called
“wp-users-in-search-of-people-who-would-like-to-be-professional-soon-and-know-a-lot-but-need-to-get-a-foot-on-the-first-rung-of-the-ladder-and-therefore-more-willing-to-take-risks”
But that would be harder to remember ;o)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>But there’s an
answer – if you can’t set up and manage a WordPress installation,
and aren’t going to be able to afford to pay someone in the future, then
WordPress.com is your friend. Everything’s nicely automated,
protected, and locked down. Your chances of a major problem with your blog
are significantly reduced. You can even then pay a pro to do a styling
job on your blog, if required – and it’s impressive what can be
done.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We often get people
turning up at our office with a £200 budget for a custom design and we just
point them at WordPress.com. It’s not worth even trying too hard to
do custom work at that level because they’re often (but not always!) the
most troublesome customers, with the least research behind them and the most
questions. That gets expensive – especially when it means that
better paying clients are having to wait.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So Tim had a point
– perhaps just a bit harshly put. You had a point too :o)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Can we all play nicely
now? If you don’t see a job you don’t want… just leave
it be!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Cheers!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dave.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com [mailto:wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jordon Bedwell<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 21 February 2008 07:49<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Tim Kissane; WP-Pro<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [wp-pro] 2 WP
Installs for 10 bucks</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>WTF.
Dude. Calm down. It would only take 10 minutes and if you call
yourself a professional and can't do two upgrades in 10 minutes quit your job
because you fail... I believe at your hourly wages for Wordpress he would
be over paying you for the 10 minutes. Whip out that fancy TI-86 you
never learned to program and calculate it. If you need me to teach you
how to program a TI-86 go ahead and call me, I'll teach you - also, if you
need me to teach you to add and subtract get at me too. Perhaps he should
offer your actual wage. $7.5 for the 10 minutes. Not that you are worth
it since you are the typical "I am an elitest" type of guy.</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>On another note,
with a site like yours, you shouldn't be designing shit, it looks like your
site is stuck in 1999. *Whips out Prince CDs and starts playing 1999*.
You NEED to go back to art school and learn what design is. Maybe fix
some of the problems on your site. "var AdBrite_Title_Color = '006600';
var AdBrite_Text_Color = 'ffffff'; var AdBrite_Background_Color = '7da6da'; var
AdBrite_Border_Color = '7da6da';" - about_us.html, maybe you could even
help me figure out why the hell a commercial site that offers services such as
yours would have adverts on their site? Very professional, I would hire you at
$5.65 an hour, and only for a pee-on job pulling tape drives from servers for a
client.</span></font><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>You are far from
a pro Mr. Kissane. A few questions Mr. "Professional":</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>1.) WTF is
"</<span class=end-tag>ulpt</span><span class=attribute-name> type</span>=<span
class=attribute-value>"text/javascript"</span>>" - I suggest
you get that fixed before you look like a moron who charges $45 an hour to
horribly misspell script.</span></font><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>2.) Why are you
lying to your customers? <a
href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ftimbury.net%2Ftcs%2Fabout_us.html">http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ftimbury.net%2Ftcs%2Fabout_us.html</a></span></font><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>3.) For somebody
who promotes to be a pro, why are you still using HTML 4.0 and how the hell do
you manage to mess up HTML 4.0? That has to be the most ill-semantic, easy to
do language in the world.</span></font><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>a.) I've seen
11th graders in graphics design skills build better HTML. Sad, but true.</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Now, I know my
site isn't perfect and nobodies is, but nobody talks about how great they are
and makes that many mistakes. Especially while demanding they are worth
so much but have made intern mistakes. I hope you've enjoyed my professional
opinion on the subject.</span></font><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Yours truly,</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>en-US.EnvyGeeks.Com</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:tim@timbury.net" title="tim@timbury.net">Tim Kissane</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:shaunconnell@gmail.com" title="shaunconnell@gmail.com">Shaun R.
Connell</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:wp-pro@lists.automattic.com" title="wp-pro@lists.automattic.com">wp-pro@lists.automattic.com</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:34 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
Re: [wp-pro] 2 WP Installs for 10 bucks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'>I've subscribed to this list for a month.
It's funny. <br>
So many cheapskates that want to pay fast food wages <br>
for tech skills they obviously lack themselves. Every other post<br>
says "shouldn't take more than 10 minutes" or "it's basic, but I<br>
don't have the time myself" or some such malarkey. <br>
<br>
I'm a computer professional with 25 years experience. I get<br>
$150./hour as a consultant. Because WordPress work is less<br>
demanding than network management, I charge $45./hour for<br>
themes and $75./hour for backend stuff. <br>
<br>
My advice to you, Mr. Connell: find some 14 year old to jump<br>
at your 10 bucks and keep your fingers crossed. Or learn to<br>
do it yourself. Then, when you've f*cked it up royally, cough<br>
up some money and hire a pro.<br>
<br>
Tim Kissane<br>
<br>
<br>
Shaun R. Connell wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'>I know it shouldn't take more than 10
minutes, but I still need help with the installs. :P I'll pay 10 bucks for
two installs -- same host.<br clear=all>
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