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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Please find a different platform for this
discussion and let’s go back to the usual requests / posts.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Angsuman Chakraborty<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 24, 2007
9:17 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> philip reed;
wp-pro@lists.automattic.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [wp-pro] WordPress
Coolie</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>> </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'>Either
that's a misunderstanding of Stallman, falling into the classic beer/speech
fallacy, or I grossly misunderstand Stallman.<br>
<br>
> I've always assumed that one reason (though not the only reason) people
are willing to donate their coding on contemporary open-source projects is
precisely BECAUSE there's an aftermarket for services.<br>
> Kill the services market and open-source coding just isn't as attractive.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Almost
immediately after I pressed the send button, I realized the potential for
debate and maybe flame too. I do not want to use this list for that. However
feel free to communicate with me directly on this issue.<br>
<br>
Suffice it to say that you should read the recent interview of Dr. Stallman:<br>
<a href="http://kerneltrap.org/node/4484" target="_blank">http://kerneltrap.org/node/4484</a><br>
<br>
Some interesting excerpts:<br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">"Any development of non-free
software is harmful and unfortunate, whether it uses GNU tools or other
tools."</font></b></strong><b><span style='font-weight:bold'><br>
</span></b><br>
JA: How do you react to the opinion that non-free software is justified as a
means for raising dollars that can then be put into the development of
completely new software, money that otherwise may not have been available, and
thus creating software that may have never been developed?<br>
<br>
Richard Stallman: <strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">This is no
justification at all.</font></b></strong> <strong><b><font
face="Times New Roman">A non-free program systematically denies the users the
freedom to cooperate; it is the basis of an antisocial scheme to dominate people.
The program is available lawfully only to those who will surrender their
freedom. That's not a contribution to society, it's a social problem. It is
better to develop no software than to develop non-free software.</font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>JA: What about the programmers...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>Richard Stallman: <strong><b><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>What about them? The programmers writing non-free
software? They are doing something antisocial. They should get some other job.</span></font></b></strong></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>He simply doesn't care about programmers making a honest
living. Not everyone is born with a silver spoon.<br>
As far as I am concerned he is a nutcase (flame 2>&1 > /dev/null),
but then what do I know?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Cheers,<br>
Angsuman</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com<br>
[<a href="mailto:wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com">mailto:wp-pro-bounces@lists.automattic.com</a>]On
Behalf Of philip reed<br>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:22 AM<br>
To: wp-pro@lists.automattic.com<br>
Subject: Re: [wp-pro] WordPress Coolie<br>
Importance: Low<br>
<br>
<br>
On 1/24/07, Angsuman Chakraborty <angsuman@taragana.com> wrote:<br>
> And then there are people whose<br>
> mindset is to abhor anything non-free, in Richard Stallmanish ways. They<br>
> believe everything should be free, conveniently forgetting that too should<br>
> be working in their day-jobs for free, without expecting any remuneration<br>
> whatsoever.<br>
<br>
Either that's a misunderstanding of Stallman, falling into the classic<br>
beer/speech fallacy, or I grossly misunderstand Stallman.<br>
<br>
I've always assumed that one reason (though not the only reason)<br>
people are willing to donate their coding on contemporary open-source<br>
projects is precisely BECAUSE there's an aftermarket for services.<br>
Kill the services market and open-source coding just isn't as<br>
attractive.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Philip<br>
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