[wp-pro] Please Remove Me From This List

[Lois]

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[mailto:wp-pro-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Dunas
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:04 AM
To: lisa at ewebscapes.com
Cc: 'Joni Mueller'; wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
Subject: [wp-pro] REMOVE

REMOVE
On Oct 21, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Lisa Sabin-Wilson wrote:

>
> I agree with Joni. There is a case for the guy/gal who has not had
> experience with hiring a freelancer before - therefore, they don't  
> know the
> "ground rules", per se.  It's up to us to educate and inform them on  
> the
> work we do in terms of time and cost.
>
> For example a "quick" CSS tweak may *seem* like a small request that  
> will
> only take 5-10 minutes.  But, as freelancers/designers/developers -  
> we know
> that quick CSS tweaks are rarely *quick* - as much as we'd like them  
> to be.
> Take into account how that quick CSS tweak affects the rest of the  
> layout -
> and additional testing / tweaks that may need to be done to  
> compensate - -
> then the time involved in browser testing to ensure cross- 
> compatibility, etc
> - - you're looking at more than a quick 5-10 minute tweak job - -  
> that is,
> if you want the job done right the first time.  (My Dad always says   
> - "if
> you don't have the time to do it right, when will you have time to  
> do it
> over?")
>
> Too many times I've heard from my clients... "Lisa, it's just a  
> quick fix -
> - 5 minutes - tops!".  For me, there are very *rare* items that take  
> only "5
> minutes tops!" and now, most of my long time clients now know better  
> than to
> assume time limits.  Now, they usually just end their request with....
> 'whatever you think is fair....'
>
> ~Lisa Sabin-Wilson
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wp-pro-bounces at lists.automattic.com
>> [mailto:wp-pro-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Donna Casey
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:26 AM
>> To: Joni Mueller
>> Cc: wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
>> Subject: Re: [wp-pro] Re: WordPRess Coder Needed
>>
>> Joni Mueller wrote:
>>> <rant>
>>> I'm so sick and tired of people, not just on this list, but
>> elsewhere,
>>> dictating how long they think something should take, and
>> then paying
>>> only according to that abbreviated scale.
>>>
>>> Remember, it's not the five minutes it takes me to do
>> something that
>>> you're paying for.  You're paying for the skill and knowledge that
>>> allows me to do it in only 5 minutes.
>>>
>>> </rant>
>>>
>>> Joni Mueller
>>>
>> well said, Joni...  if that person actually knew enough to
>> know how long something "should" take... then they should
>> have the skills to do it themselves. I hope they pay themselves well.
>>
>> Donna
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