> What is the practice in other languages? fr_FR : 5/12/2008 à 19 h 00 min 00 s which for date() is: d/m/Y \\à G \\h i \\m\\i\\n s \\s or even in one case: d/m/Y \\à\\&\\n\\b\\s\\p\\;G\\&\\n\\b\\s\\p\\;\\h\\&\\n\\b\\s\\p\\;i\\&\\n\\b\\s\\p\\;\\m\\i\\n :) (but I might be overthinking it :) ) -- Xavier Borderie