[wp-hackers] Ideas for GSoC

Tue Apr 30 21:39:54 UTC 2013

And by "edit it" I mean publish a post *on your own blog* with the full
description rather than just a long post here.

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Eric Mann <eric at eam.me> wrote:

> That was the only major thing I saw in your proposal, but if you want to
> edit it to reference GUIDs rather than hashes I can take another look.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Brian Iván Martínez <xangelux at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Ok, that seams better, that way, the use of GUID wouldn't interfiere with
>> anything else. So should I send this proposal or what would you recomend?
>>
>>
>> 2013/4/30 Eric Mann <eric at eam.me>
>>
>> > GUID is just an acronym - "Globally Unique IDentifier" very similar to
>> UUID
>> > - "Universally Unique IDentifier"  Yes, Microsoft uses GUIDs more often
>> > than anyone else and has their own proprietary algorithms, but it's a
>> > common standard that's built in to many DB systems as well.
>> >
>> > MySQL, for example, even features a UUID() method:
>> >
>> >
>> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/miscellaneous-functions.html#function_uuid
>> >
>> > You can store UUIDs in the database in a Binary(16) column:
>> > http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?98,49626,49922#msg-49922 This will
>> make
>> > queries just about as fast as working with integers.
>> >
>> > If you're migrating data from one format (auto-incremented integers) to
>> > another format (a true UUID) then the chances of having an ID conflict
>> from
>> > one system to the other is nil.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Brian Iván Martínez <
>> xangelux at gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Is there documentation on the GUID? I thought it was a Microsoft
>> closed
>> > > algorithm. About the conflicts, I threw that in in case you wanted to
>> use
>> > > integers (decimal) only (for faster query operations) and in case the
>> > > resulting new UUID (decimal) conflicts with the old id, then that
>> aproach
>> > > can be taken, if that is the case, but if not, the simple new UUID
>> > > conversion is taken with no conflicts.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2013/4/30 Eric Mann <eric at eam.me>
>> > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The new UUID would be made out of the username+timestamp from the
>> > epoch
>> > > > > and that string would be md5'ed
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Why not use a true GUID? XXXXXXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXXXXXXXXX It's a
>> > > fairly
>> > > > standard and recognizable data structure.
>> > > >
>> > > > The resulting UUID of the users may conflict between on systems
>> with a
>> > > > > large number of users as the new UUID can be the same as the old
>> id
>> > of
>> > > a
>> > > > user
>> > > > > on those systems.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > If this kind of conflict is possible, then there's a flaw in the
>> UUID
>> > > > system you're using.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Brian Iván Martínez <
>> > xangelux at gmail.com
>> > > > >wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hello, I'm interested in the GSoC and I'd like to be mentored by
>> you
>> > > > guys.
>> > > > > I like some of the ideas in the GSoC over in wordpress site but I
>> > have
>> > > > some
>> > > > > ideas of my own too that I'd like to run by you before submiting
>> my
>> > > > proyect
>> > > > > thing.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The first Idea is:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Public/Un-public
>> > > > > Sometimes you are writing something, but then you have to go, so
>> you
>> > > save
>> > > > > it as a draft; then you come back and continue your draft and post
>> > it.
>> > > > But
>> > > > > then you realize you wrote something you don't want everyone to
>> see,
>> > so
>> > > > > your only option is copy the content and delete the post to write
>> it
>> > > > > somewhere else. It would be really useful to have a big red/blue
>> > button
>> > > > to
>> > > > > publish your post or hide it if you don't want everybody to read
>> it,
>> > > > maybe
>> > > > > you have a long post and you plan to post it in a specific date,
>> so
>> > you
>> > > > > draft it but if you don't remember to post it then you may post it
>> > too
>> > > > > late, this post button may be programmed to warn you to post it or
>> > even
>> > > > > post it automatically via a Trigger or php.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Besides annother idea is create a social circle inside wordpress
>> > where
>> > > > you
>> > > > > can create a group for close friends who also public in your
>> > wordpress
>> > > or
>> > > > > simply in wordpress.com. This is for the only pourpuse of leave
>> post
>> > > > only
>> > > > > for users on a group. This groups are more important than the
>> blogs
>> > you
>> > > > > follow, because you can get a really long feed from all the blogs
>> you
>> > > > > follow and your friends posts get lost in the huge list that some
>> > times
>> > > > > becomes too long, didn't read (tl;dr). That adds some interesting
>> > > > features
>> > > > > to wordpress like  friends groups' feed on a list, friends on a
>> group
>> > > but
>> > > > > don't want their feed on the friends feed and a posibility to
>> send a
>> > > > friend
>> > > > > a notification of a post if you know your friend will be
>> interested
>> > > with
>> > > > a
>> > > > > "tag" friend button instead of an email .
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Well, it seems I pured some ideas in the last one, well, the next
>> > idea
>> > > is
>> > > > > an implementation of the not public post. A lot of users use
>> > wordpress
>> > > > as a
>> > > > > content creation tool but sometimes they write a personal journal
>> and
>> > > > don't
>> > > > > want to share all of it and it shouldn't be on the regular posts
>> > stream
>> > > > > because it about their personal life, how about a little journal
>> > inside
>> > > > > your admin panel. This journal would have tools to link to posts
>> and
>> > > > have a
>> > > > > preview of the link and the ability to make a todo list. This tool
>> > > would
>> > > > be
>> > > > > very good and useful to content creators that plan their posts or
>> the
>> > > > ones
>> > > > > that are following the development of their site using a todo
>> list to
>> > > > check
>> > > > > for things that they need, program post titles, program series of
>> > posts
>> > > > > etc.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Apart from this I think the UUID for the users is very
>> interesting as
>> > > the
>> > > > > new user tour.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > For the new UUID I would first add a column to the user apropriate
>> > > table.
>> > > > > The new UUID would be made out of the username+timestamp from the
>> > epoch
>> > > > and
>> > > > > that string would be md5'ed. If you still want to keep working
>> with
>> > > > > integers I would convert md5'ed string to it's equivalent integer
>> > > value.
>> > > > > New users only have the new column value and 0 on the other to
>> start
>> > > > > conversion. When the last user has been converted, the old id
>> column
>> > > > would
>> > > > > be droped. Obviously before doing such a thing, a lot of
>> precausions
>> > > have
>> > > > > to be taken into acount as every function that has access to or
>> need
>> > > the
>> > > > > user id have to be "hacked" to verify the two numbers before each
>> > > action
>> > > > is
>> > > > > taken. The resulting UUID of the users may conflict between on
>> > systems
>> > > > with
>> > > > > a large number of users as the new UUID can be the same as the
>> old id
>> > > of
>> > > > a
>> > > > > user on those systems. For that to be plausible there has to be
>> extra
>> > > > steps
>> > > > > that migrate the users id to UUID in md5'ed strings only and then
>> > check
>> > > > the
>> > > > > result for converting the UUID to a integer equivalent if there
>> is a
>> > > user
>> > > > > with that id, if so, first convert that user to new UUID and
>> delete
>> > the
>> > > > old
>> > > > > id. Do that check recursively so if that issue repets, firs check
>> the
>> > > > user
>> > > > > down and so on. At the end of the "conversion" drop the extra
>> column
>> > > and
>> > > > > un-hack the functions that you previously hacked.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > For the new user tour I think It would be better to have a meter
>> but
>> > > with
>> > > > > different levels, if you only want to create posts, a quick tour
>> to
>> > > show
>> > > > > you about creation of new posts, basic moderation, notifications,
>> > > select
>> > > > a
>> > > > > theme, change password and where and how to read statistics. If
>> you
>> > > want
>> > > > a
>> > > > > more advanced tour click a button in each part of the admin tools
>> > > telling
>> > > > > which does what and examples or tips to get a better experience.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I'm studying Computer Science Engeneering in México, Michoacán
>> State
>> > > and
>> > > > > have knolege on databases (MySQL, PostgreSQL mostly), networking
>> > > > > (Intermediate) and programming in C, C++(rusty in that), Java,
>> PHP,
>> > > > > JavaScript (basic, JQuery), learning ruby/RoR.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If any of my ideas was interesting pleas let me know which to
>> apply
>> > to
>> > > > the
>> > > > > GSoC with you guys, if not tel me if I can help with annother one
>> of
>> > > your
>> > > > > ideas.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks for your time.
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