[wp-hackers] [GSoC] Document Management

Benjamin J. Balter ben at balter.com
Thu Mar 31 03:59:16 UTC 2011

Free Tuesday or Wednesday afternoon at al;?

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Mike Schinkel <mikeschinkel at newclarity.net
> wrote:

> On Mar 30, 2011, at 10:51 PM, Jane Wells wrote:
> >> So my concern with his proposal was that it would be incredibly
> valuable, probably the best I've seen, but only if done right.
> > The core developers of WordPress, the people who make up the mentorship
> group, are the people best able to judge if something is done "right"
> according to our coding standards.
> >
> >> Frankly, I have clients who want some of the exact things his proposal
> specified.
> > Then you should built it yourself or hire someone to do it, not try to
> get a student who's hoping to take advantage of a mentorship opportunity
> with completely different goals to do it for you. Come on, man. This is
> going too far and crossing a line.
> >
> >> Further my belief is that no one single mentor, myself included, could
> offer him enough experience to do a good job on the entirety of his
> proposal; its scope is just too large.
> > All projects will have two mentors plus additional backup mentors. Please
> try not to insult the experience of a lot of people who are volunteering
> their time, many of whom you don't even know, in pursuit of your own agenda.
> >
> >> I guess my point of asking for experience is to shine a light on the
> need for lots of experience for a project of that magnitude.
> > It just isn't really the place of this list to grill students about their
> experience. They will include their experience in their application, where
> it will be reviewed by the mentors. The purpose of posting to this list is
> to get feedback on the ideas and code approaches. Posting to wp-hackers is
> not a job interview.
> Jane, it's amazing how you take what I say, envision diabolical intent and
> then twist it to sounds like nothing I intended. It's as if you look for
> opportunities to do so.  The only "agenda" I have is to see the CMS use-case
> improve. Your assertions are insulting and if you've seen the work I've done
> for clients that rarely uses anyone else's code other than core you'd know
> your assertions are baseless. It is you that crosses the line by insinuating
> these things without a shred of actual evidence. Clearly you discount all
> the things I have do for free[1] to help those who use WordPress
> professionally, and you damage me by insinuating that I'm pursuing an
> anti-WordPress agenda.
> I don't know what I specifically did to you or when I did it such that you
> come out attacking every time I tried to contribute here but whatever it is
> I apologize. Life's too short.
> -Mike
> [1] http://bit.ly/b8ONQf
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