[wp-hackers] [GSoC] Document Management

Jane Wells jane at automattic.com
Thu Mar 31 02:51:44 UTC 2011

On 3/30/11 10:12 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
> But this projects have a significant opportunity cost, and if one fails to gain traction after implements it keeps one that could have been a  huge success from happening
Our measure of success with our participation in GSoC is in growing 
long-term core contributors, not necessarily the 'success' of a 
particular bit of code. We learn just as much form the things that go 
wrong as we do from the things that go right. GSoC is a learning 
experience above all.

> So my concern with his proposal was that it would be incredibly valuable, probably the best I've seen, but only if done right.
The core developers of WordPress, the people who make up the mentorship 
group, are the people best able to judge if something is done "right" 
according to our coding standards.

> Frankly, I have clients who want some of the exact things his proposal specified.
Then you should built it yourself or hire someone to do it, not try to 
get a student who's hoping to take advantage of a mentorship opportunity 
with completely different goals to do it for you. Come on, man. This is 
going too far and crossing a line.

> Further my belief is that no one single mentor, myself included, could offer him enough experience to do a good job on the entirety of his proposal; its scope is just too large.
All projects will have two mentors plus additional backup mentors. 
Please try not to insult the experience of a lot of people who are 
volunteering their time, many of whom you don't even know, in pursuit of 
your own agenda.

> I guess my point of asking for experience is to shine a light on the need for lots of experience for a project of that magnitude.
It just isn't really the place of this list to grill students about 
their experience. They will include their experience in their 
application, where it will be reviewed by the mentors. The purpose of 
posting to this list is to get feedback on the ideas and code 
approaches. Posting to wp-hackers is not a job interview.


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