[wp-hackers] wpautop is NOT the problem.

Chip Bennett chip at chipbennett.net
Fri Mar 18 16:06:31 UTC 2011


Does filtering the TinyMCE $init array not work?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Kevin Newman <CaptainN at unfocus.com> wrote:

> That's correct, you will run into problems. But why is it like that? It
> doesn't have to be - if I disable the WordPress JS, TinyMCE doesn't mess
> with my stuff. From what I can tell, it seems like it should be quite
> possible to have it both ways - it would take a source formatting step,
> followed by autop and nop.
>
> There are other things an async call to the server would solve, besides
> just making it consistent - for example, there are some hooks (adding
> elements to the block element list) that are ignored client side (and the
> way the js function is written, access to that list is almost impossible,
> unless you really really know JavaScript). An async call to the server side
> wpautop could theoretically fix that.
>
> Kevin N.
>
>
>
> On 3/18/2011 11:19 AM, Chip Bennett wrote:
>
>> If you're switching between Visual and HTML editors, and you haven't
>> customized your TinyMCE configuration, you *WILL* run into problems.
>>
>> I would suggest either not switching between editors, or else customizing
>> your TinyMCE configuration such that you avoid the changes that it makes
>> when switching from HTML to Visual.
>>
>> Chip
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Kevin Newman<CaptainN at unfocus.com>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  So after looking into this more carefully, to try and disable what I
>>> thought was the problem, I don't think the idea of wpautop is the
>>> problem,
>>> nor is the server side (php) implementation. If I just use the text
>>> editor,
>>> and save back to the server, things tend to work out.
>>>
>>> The problem seems to be the javascript implementation of wpautop that is
>>> triggered between TinyMCE and the HTML tab.
>>>
>>> The question then is, how to make this work more consistently like the
>>> PHP
>>> version.
>>>
>>> I think this could be handled with an Ajax call to the actual server side
>>> wpautop. But the JS version actually addresses another problem, which is
>>> that content coming out of TinyMCE needs to be formatted (it's also doing
>>> some other kind of filtering that I haven't looked closely enough at to
>>> understand yet) - that could be handled separately before or after the
>>> server side wpautop tag-back.
>>>
>>> Anyway, has anyone looked into this? I'd be a lot of the complaining
>>> about
>>> wpautop is actually complaints about the client side implementation of
>>> it,
>>> and not about wpautop in general.
>>>
>>> I'd be happy to attempt a solution, if there is any interest.
>>>
>>> Kevin N.
>>>
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